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Podcast Interview with Dr. Elisa Robyn

Dr. Elisa Robyn has a bachelor's and master's degree in Geology, a Ph.D. in Educational Psychology and a second master's degree in Jewish studies. She has over 20 years of experience as an Academic Dean in various institutions. She currently is working as a Transitions and Prosperity expert. Dr Robyn also has an active blog, is the author of two books and several academic articles. She can be connected through her website: elisarobyn.com

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  • CEO Defined: Responsibility for people who rely on you

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INTRO 0:02

Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkless values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO Podcast.

Gresham Harkless 0:29

Hello, this is Gresh from the I Am CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Dr. Elisa Robyn of elisarobyn.com. Dr. Lisa, it's awesome to have you on the show.

Dr Elisa Robyn 0:40

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

Gresham Harkless 0:43

No problem. Super excited to have you on and what I wanted to do was just read a little bit more about Dr. Elisa so you can hear about all the awesome things that she's doing. Dr. Elisa has a bachelor's and master's degree in geology, a Ph.D. in educational psychology, and a second master's degree in Jewish Studies. She has over 20 years of experience as an academic dean in various institutions. She currently is working as a transition and prosperity expert. Dr. Robyn has an active blog and has authored two books and several academic journals. She can be connected through her website at elisarobyn.com. Dr. Elisa, are you ready to speak to the IMCEO community?

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Dr Elisa Robyn 1:18

I am, I'm so excited.

Gresham Harkless 1:20

Awesome. Let's do it. So they kick everything off, I want to hear a little bit more about what I call your CEO story and what led you to start your business.

Dr Elisa Robyn 1:26

Sure. So as you can tell, I've had several careers I was a geologist, I was an academic dean and I realized one of the things I'm great at is reinventing myself and transitions. I got to the point perhaps we all do, where we feel like what we're currently doing isn't feeding our soul anymore. So I stepped away from my 20-year career and decided to get back to my first love working one-on-one with people doing workshops, writing, consulting, and helping people through transitions. And knowing that transitions have often challenged our prosperity. That's my focus. How do I help you create prosperous change in your life?

Gresham Harkless 2:10

Nice. Well, I definitely appreciate that I always say like, the only constant is change and transitions, it always seems like we're always having to evolve and change. And I appreciate you know, people like you that are able to thrive. It sounds like thrive, you know, during those times, but not just for yourself, but it sounds like help other people out.

Dr Elisa Robyn 2:27

That is my goal, that you're exactly right. Everything changes all the time. The crisis that we create in our lives comes when we resist change. When I don't want to change and the world's changing around me. You know, a great example is I had one of my clients say to me, all of my employees want to text. I'm older, I don't like text. And I'm like, well let's work on adapting to your employees. Because that's how they communicate. So let's try that. It's the resistance to change that causes crises in our lives.

Gresham Harkless 3:00

Yeah, absolutely. Because everything's always evolving and changing and transitioning as well, too. So it's important to kind of go with the river instead of trying to fight the river because they'll still go around you whether you want it to or not.

Dr Elisa Robyn 3:11

Absolutely. That's a great image yeah,

Gresham Harkless 3:14

Yeah, absolutely. So I wanted to drill down a little bit deeper. I know you touched on, you know, one of the clients that you work with, could you tell us I guess a little bit more about what you're doing and how you're helping support clients you're working with?

Dr Elisa Robyn 3:23

Sure. So I have to say that I'm a little edgy in what I'm doing. I've been very traditional throughout my life corporate geologist, and academic dean, the truth is, at my core, I'm a bit of a rebel, a bit outside the lines, not I don't even color out, I'm just outside the lines. So I put myself through my Ph.D. as a professional astrologer.

So I was a geologist, I got laid off, and I had to earn money, and pay for a degree. And I've been into astrology forever. So what I've learned is this combination of psychology, my research, and training in psychology, my experience as an academic dean, helping people choose careers and transition and create encores. And my training as an astrologer. When I bring those together, I have a very unique package.

So I will work one-on-one with people, they can put me on retainer, actually, and call me when they're having a crisis. I do workshops and training on how to realize who we are at our core, honor that, and move forward from there. You're a great example, right? You found what you love, and then you've shifted it and adapted it and said it might not be mainstream, but it's good, and it's who I am. And so you're a great example of having done that.

Gresham Harkless 4:44

Well, thank you. I definitely appreciate that. I always believe you know, especially like we were talking about and we talked about transition and change and all those things that are constantly moving and evolving that a lot of times you do have to do that. I guess self-work and self-awareness to understand who you are at your core. And then you can understand how to adapt without changing the core of who you are, which is kind of a tough balance if you don't know who you are.

Dr Elisa Robyn 5:07

Absolutely, and you know, sometimes, you know, you have to adapt more, I was fairly well-behaved as a dean, I really was the blue streaks in my hair, okay. But there's a point to where, you know, you can't adapt that far. You have to honor who you are. And I think I just got to that point in my life, and I want to help people find that balance in theirs.

Gresham Harkless 5:32

Nice, I mean, it makes perfect sense. And I think especially for you know, people that are transitioning, and especially with business and entrepreneurship, especially, where there's constant change, you need to be able to honor that and to be able to understand what that fine line is, so that you can still be true to yourself and still, you know, hopefully, hit your goals.

Dr Elisa Robyn 5:52

Yes, yeah, that's a great point.

Gresham Harkless 5:54

Nice and so I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce. This can be for you or your organization, but it's what you feel kind of sets you apart and makes you unique.

Dr Elisa Robyn 6:03

Right? So I probably answered that a little bit, I think that my secret sauce is that I can let go of the boundaries and say, look, I can blend these different parts together. Yes, there's a metaphysical part of the world and I can approach that. And yes, there's hard science in the world. And yes, I understand that.

And yes, there's this world of business that we have to adapt to. If you're in a corporation, or you're starting your own business, you still have to understand marketing and technology, and who is your demographic, and you have to understand all of those. My secret sauce is I've had experience in all of those worlds and been successful in all of those worlds. I can bring those together for someone else. And I have watched my client's lives get better when they work with me over and over again. I don't know what that is. But that's my secret sauce when you work with me, your life gets better.

Gresham Harkless 6:58

Hey, that's a great secret sauce and great superpower, I would definitely say, you know, to be able to kind of tap into that. Because I think, and there's this book, I think I usually talk about a lot. It's called the opposable mind. It talks about how like somebody's secret sauce. And what really makes them unique, is the fact to be able to take two different thoughts and be able to merge them into one because it becomes creative. So it kind of sounds like that's what you were alluding to.

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Dr Elisa Robyn 7:23

Right. And I think that's always been my strength in any job I've had, it isn't that I can bring people together, as much as I can look at disparate ideas, find the way to link them together to create something bigger, you know, that used to be the definition of debate, instead of yelling each other. You were side A and I was side B, and we would talk and we would get up here to answer See, which was bigger than both of us. Right? That's what I help people do internally and in their own lives.

Gresham Harkless 7:57

Yeah, that makes sense. It's all about creating kind of like that win-win and a lot of times, I think that when you are looking at things from one perspective, and somebody else is looking at it from another perspective, you can't see anything outside of that box, so to speak. So the fact that you're able to kind of understand, you know, maybe both aspects are both the central parts of you know, a and b and able to come up with see that actually is a great win-win for both of them is definitely a talent.

Dr Elisa Robyn 8:22

Absolutely, so, that's my secret sauce.

Gresham Harkless 8:27

I like that. So I wanted to switch gears a little bit. And I want to ask you for what I call a CEO hack. This might be an app or book or a habit that you have, but it's something that makes you more effective and efficient.

Dr Elisa Robyn 8:39

Don't be afraid to try it. Don't be afraid to learn technology, and build your website, yes, you can pay someone to do your technology. But if you don't understand your technology, you'll never get it clear even if somebody else builds it. So I've learned all of that stuff and the information is out there. You can watch a person who talks about using Pinterest for marketing, using quizzes for marketing, or how to build your website, and I take the time to watch those and then learn to do it myself. And once I know how to do it myself, then I can let go and get help. But I know how it's supposed to work.

Gresham Harkless 9:18

Yeah, absolutely and that's definitely a skill. And it's something that you know, a lot of people gloss over but something that curiosity and that desire to actually learn and know is something that definitely distinguishes people. So I appreciate you for sharing those with us. And now I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO nugget. And this is a word of wisdom or a piece of advice or if you can happen to a time machine, what would you tell your younger business self?

Dr Elisa Robyn 9:41

I think that I would love to go back and tell myself that I'm much more resilient than I think I am. If I have a strength at all, it's resiliency, that life goes up and life goes down and and life wasn't designed in a way that everything is easy. But before you just sit down and give up, just keep your feet going.

Gresham Harkless 10:04

Exactly, so now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. And we're hoping to have different, quote-unquote, CEOs on the show. So Dr. Elisa, what does being a CEO mean to you?

Dr Elisa Robyn 10:17

As you can tell, a lot of my life is about sort of balancing two sides, right? But a CEO, to me has a balancing act, you have all the responsibility and all the freedom. Responsibility, meaning you are making all the choices for your business, and for people who rely on you and for your customers and your clients. In the end, if you make all those decisions, it is your responsibility. Yes, you have the freedom to come and go as you please, do what you want, and set your schedule. But if that doesn't line up with your responsibilities, then you are letting your clients your employees, and everyone else who believes in you down.

And so the CEO is that person who does the biggest balancing act. Yes, I have freedom, but I have profound responsibility. If I am not willing to accept that responsibility, then perhaps I don't want to be the CEO. And I think that's an important thing to recognize within ourselves. Am I willing? Yes, we all want the freedom. Am I willing to take the responsibility that comes with that? Because freedom is not free? It isn't cheap, it's expensive. Are you willing to do that work? And if you are, then yes, you're ready to be a CEO.

Gresham Harkless 11:35

Absolutely. I love that perspective and I definitely couldn't visualize the whole kind of like balance beam where if you're going too far on freedom, then you're not going to be able to take care of responsibility. If you're doing too much responsibility, you're not going to have too much freedom. So you have to be able to balance both of those.

Dr Elisa Robyn 11:48

Right, and I think sometimes we step in expecting one and not the other. We step in saying, I have all the freedom in the world. Well, yeah, but you just left you lead your team off a cliff. That wasn't very good. I have all the responsibility. It's what it is all about you on some level, but actually, it's about your clients. It's always about the relationship you have with others. I truly believe in this world. It's always about relationships, always. The relationship I have with myself, the relationship I have with you, with clients with employees, it's always about relationships. That's probably my science background, you cannot change any one thing on this planet, and not expect a ripple. Everything ripples out. Everything is connected. So how are you ready to dance that? Are you ready to be in both worlds at the same time?

Gresham Harkless 12:44

Absolutely and understand it's all you know, connected, like you just said. So I think everything has energy and energy is all interchange and connected. So I definitely appreciate that perspective. I appreciate that definition and, of course, appreciate your time even more. What I wanted to do was pass you the mic, so to speak, just to see if there's anything additional, you can let our readers and listeners know. And then of course, how best they can get ahold of you.

Dr Elisa Robyn 13:05

Of course, so you know, first off, thank you. This is just delightful to talk with you. I do love your podcast. I love everyone you interviewed. So I'm so I feel so privileged to be part of it. I do want to let people know that I have a website and it has my blog, it has my podcasts, it has information, some quizzes, some just videos, information about me, it has a direct email link. So there's tons of ways to get in touch with me there and that's probably the easiest way to do it. So it's elisarobyn.com, and Robyn is spelled with a Y. I also just want to encourage people, this is a hard time on the planet for so many people.

I want to encourage people to recognize that when we step forward, courageously believing in ourselves and believing in what we know is right, we have the power to change the world, that it is the edges that always change the world, the mainstream is too afraid to change, they lose too much they lose security and the way it was. When you're willing to move to those edges, you have a profoundly positive effect on the planet and the world. I just want to encourage people to do that. And if they need help with that I'm here I'm more than willing to help them with that transition and change.

Gresham Harkless 14:22

Awesome, well, thank you so much. I appreciate that, I appreciate, you know all your time and that reminder for us to continue to be bold and to move along those edges and get outside of the lines and I just color outside the lines. I like to say that I definitely appreciate that. We'll have the links in the show notes as well and I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.

Dr Elisa Robyn 14:41

You too. Thank you so much.

OUTRO 14:43

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INTRO 0:02

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Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkless values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO Podcast.

Gresham Harkless 0:29

Hello, this is Gresh from the I am CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Dr. Elisa Robyn of elisarobyn.com. Dr. Lisa, it's awesome to have you on the show.

Dr Elisa Robyn 0:40

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

Gresham Harkless 0:43

No problem. Super excited to have you on and what I wanted to do was just read a little bit more about Dr. Elisa so you can hear about all the awesome things that she's doing. And Dr. Elisa has a bachelor's and master's degree in geology, a PhD in educational psychology and a second master's degree in Jewish Studies. She has over 20 years of experience as an academic dean in various institutions. She currently is working as a transitions and prosperity expert. Dr. Robyn has an active blog and has authored two books and several academic journals. She can be connected through her website at elisarobyn.com. Dr. Elisa, are you ready to speak to the IMCEO community?

Dr Elisa Robyn 1:18

I am I'm so excited.

Gresham Harkless 1:20

Awesome. Let's do it. So they kick everything off, I want to hear a little bit more about what I call your ceo story and what led you to start your business.

Dr Elisa Robyn 1:26

Sure. So as you can tell, I've had several careers I was a geologist, I was an academic dean and I realized one of the things I'm great at is reinventing myself and transitions. I got to the point perhaps we all do, where we feel like what we're currently doing isn't feeding our soul anymore. So I stepped away from my 20 year career and decided to get back to a first love working one on one with people doing workshops, writing, consulting, and helping people through transitions. And knowing that transitions have often challenged our prosperity. That's my focus. How do I help you create prosperous change in your life?

Gresham Harkless 2:10

Nice. Well, I definitely appreciate that I always say like, the only constant is change and transitions, it always seems like we're always having to evolve and change. And I appreciate you know, people like you that are able to thrive. It sounds like thrive, you know, during those times, but not just for yourself, but it sounds like help other people out.

Dr Elisa Robyn 2:27

That is my goal, that you're exactly right. Everything changes all the time. The crisis that we create in our life comes when we resist change. When I don't want to change and the world's changing around me. You know, a great example is I had some one of my clients said to me, all of my employees want to text. I'm older, I don't like text. And I'm like, well let's work on adapting to your employees. Because that's how they communicate. So let's try that. It's the resistance to change the causes crisis in our life.

Gresham Harkless 3:00

Yeah, absolutely. Because everything's always evolving and changing and transitioning as well, too. So it's important to kind of go with the river instead of trying to fight the river, because they'll still go around you whether you want it to or not.

Dr Elisa Robyn 3:11

Absolutely. That's a great image yeah,

Gresham Harkless 3:14

Yeah, absolutely. So I wanted to drill down a little bit deeper. I know you touched on, you know, one of the clients that you work with, could you tell us I guess a little bit more about what you're doing and how you're helping support clients you're working with?

Dr Elisa Robyn 3:23

Sure. So I have to say that I'm a little edgy in what I'm doing. I've been very traditional through my life corporate geologist, academic dean, the truth is, at my core, I'm a bit of a rebel, a bit outside the lines, not I don't even color out, I'm just outside the lines. So I put myself through my PhD as a professional astrologer. So I was a geologist, I got laid off, I had to earn money, pay for a degree. And I've been into astrology forever. So what I've learned is this combination of psychology, my research and training in psychology, my experience as an academic dean, helping people choose careers and transition and create encores. And my training as an astrologer. When I bring those together, I have a very unique package. So I will work one on one with people, they can put me on retainer, actually, and call me when they're having a crisis. And I do workshops and trainings on how to realize who we are at our core, honor that and move forward from there. You're a great example, right? You found what you love, and then you've shifted it and adapted it and said it might not be mainstream, but it's good, and it's who I am. And so you're a great example of having done that.

Gresham Harkless 4:44

Well, thank you. I definitely appreciate that. I always believe you know, especially like we were talking about and we talked about transition and change and all those things that are constantly moving and evolving that a lot of times you do have to do that. I guess self work and self awareness to understand who you are at your core. And then you can understand how to adapt without changing the core of who you are, which is kind of a tough balance if you don't know who you are.

Dr Elisa Robyn 5:07

Absolutely, and you know, sometimes, you know, you have to adapt more, I was fairly well behaved as a dean, I really was the blue streaks in my hair, okay. But there's a point to where, you know, you can't adapt that far. You have to honor who you are. And I think I just got to that point in my life, and I want to help people find that balance in theirs.

Gresham Harkless 5:32

Nice, I mean, it makes perfect sense. And I think especially for you know, people that are transitioning, and especially with business and entrepreneurship, especially, where there's constant change, you need to be able to honor that and to be able to understand what that fine line is, so that you can still be true to yourself and still, you know, hopefully hit your goals.

Dr Elisa Robyn 5:52

Yes, yeah, that's a great point.

Gresham Harkless 5:54

Nice and so I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce. And this can be for you or your organization, but it's what you feel kind of sets you apart and makes you unique.

Dr Elisa Robyn 6:03

Right? So I probably answered that a little bit, I think that my secret sauce is that I can let go the boundaries and say, look, I can blend these different parts together. Yes, there's a metaphysical part of the world and I can approach that. And yes, there's hard science in the world. And yes, I understand that. And yes, there's this world of business that we have to adapt to. If you're in a corporation, or you're starting your own business, you still have to understand marketing and technology, and who is your demographic, and you have to understand all of those. My secret sauce is I've had experience in all of those worlds and been successful in all of those worlds. I can bring those together for someone else. And I have watched my clients lives get better when they work with me over and over again. I don't know what that is. But that's my secret sauce that when you work with me, your life gets better.

Gresham Harkless 6:58

Hey, that's a great secret sauce and great superpower, I would definitely say, you know, to be able to kind of tap into that. Because I think, and there's this book, I think I usually talk about a lot. It's called opposable mind. And it talks about how like somebody's secret sauce. And what really makes them unique, is the fact to be able to take two different thoughts and be able to merge them into one because it's becomes creative. So it kind of sounds like that's what you were alluding to.

Dr Elisa Robyn 7:23

Right. And I think that's always been my strength in any job I've had, it isn't that I can bring people together, as much as I can look at disparate ideas, find the way to link them together to create something bigger, you know, that used to be the definition of debate, instead of yelling each other. You were side a and I was side B, and we would talk and we would get up here to answer See, which was bigger than both of us. Right? That's what I help people do internally and in their own lives.

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Gresham Harkless 7:57

Yeah, that makes sense. It's all about creating kind of like that win win and a lot of times, I think that when you are looking at things from one perspective, and somebody else is looking at it from another perspective, you can't see anything outside of that box, so to speak. So the fact that you're able to kind of understand, you know, maybe both aspects are both the central parts of you know, a and b and able to come up with see that actually is a great win win for both of them is definitely a talent.

Dr Elisa Robyn 8:22

Absolutely, so, that's my secret sauce.

Gresham Harkless 8:27

I like that. So I wanted to switch gears a little bit. And I want to ask you for what I call a CEO hack. And this might be an app or book or a habit that you have, but it's something that makes you more effective and efficient.

Dr Elisa Robyn 8:39

Don't be afraid to try it. Don't be afraid to learn technology, build your website, yes, you can pay someone to do your technology. But if you don't understand your technology, you'll never get it clear even if somebody else builds it. So I've learned all of that stuff and the information is out there. You can watch a person who talks about using Pinterest for marketing or using quizzes for marketing, or how to build your website, and I take the time to watch those and then learn to do it myself. And once I know how to do it myself, then I can let go and get help. But I know how it's supposed to work.

Gresham Harkless 9:18

Yeah, absolutely and that's definitely a skill. And it's something that you know, a lot of people gloss over but something that curiosity and that desire to actually learn and know is something that definitely distinguishes people. So I appreciate you for sharing those with us. And now I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO nugget. And this is a word of wisdom or a piece of advice or if you can happen to a time machine, what would you tell your younger business self?

Dr Elisa Robyn 9:41

I think that I would love to go back and tell myself that I'm much more resilient than I think I am. If I have a strength at all, it's resiliency, that life goes up and life goes down and and life wasn't designed in a way that everything is easy. But before you just sit down and give up, just keep your feet going.

Gresham Harkless 10:04

Exactly, so now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. And we're hoping to have different, quote unquote, CEOs on the show. So Dr. Elisa, what does being a CEO mean to you?

Dr Elisa Robyn 10:17

As you can tell, a lot of my life is about sort of balancing two sides, right. But a CEO, to me that has a balancing act, you have all the responsibility and all the freedom. Responsibility, meaning you are making all the choices for your business, and for people who rely on you and for your customers and your clients. In the end, if you make all those decisions, so it is your responsibility. Yes, you have the freedom to come and go as you please, and do what you want and set your schedule. But if that doesn't line up with your responsibilities, then you are letting your clients and your employees and everyone else who believes in you down. And so the CEO is that person who does the biggest balancing act. Yes, I have freedom, but I have profound responsibility. If I am not willing to accept that responsibility, then perhaps I don't want to be the CEO. And I think that's an important thing to recognize within ourselves. Am I willing? Yes, we all want the freedom. Am I willing to take the responsibility that comes with that? Because freedom is not free? It isn't cheap, it's expensive. Are you willing to do that work? And if you are, then yes, you're ready to be a CEO.

Gresham Harkless 11:35

Absolutely. I love that perspective and I definitely couldn't visualize the whole kind of like balance beam where if you're going too far on freedom, then you're not going to be able to take care of responsibility. If you're doing too much responsibility, you're not going to have too much freedom. So you have to be able to balance both of those.

Dr Elisa Robyn 11:48

Right, and I think sometimes we step in expecting one and not the other. We step in saying, I have all the freedom in the world. Well, yeah, but you just left you lead your team off a cliff. That wasn't very good. I have all the responsibility. It's all what it is all about you on some level, but actually, it's about your clients. It's always about the relationship you have with others. I truly believe in this world. It's always about relationships, always. The relationship I have with myself, the relationship I have with you, with clients with employees, it's always about relationships. That's probably my science background, is you cannot change any one thing on this planet, and not expect a ripple. Everything ripples out. Everything is connected. So how are you ready to dance that? Are you ready to be in both worlds at the same time?

Gresham Harkless 12:44

Absolutely and understand it's all you know, connected, like you just said. So I think everything has energy and energy is all interchange and connected. So I definitely appreciate that perspective. I appreciate that definition and, of course, appreciate your time even more. What I wanted to do was pass you the mic, so to speak, just to see if there's anything additional, you can let our readers and listeners know. And then of course, how best they can get ahold of you.

Dr Elisa Robyn 13:05

Of course, so you know, first off, thank you. This is just delightful to talk with you. I do love your podcast. I love everyone you interview. So I'm so I feel so privileged to be part of it. I do want to let people know that I have a website and it has my blog, it has my podcasts, it has information, some quizzes, some just videos, information about me, it has a direct email link. So there's tons of ways to get in touch with me there and that's probably the easiest way to do it. So it's elisarobyn.com, and Robyn is spelled with a Y. I also just want to encourage people, this is a hard time on the planet for so many people.I want to encourage people to recognize that when we step forward, courageously believing in ourselves believing in what we know is right, that we have the power to change the world, that it is the edges that always change the world, the mainstream is too afraid to change, they lose too much they lose security and the way it was. When you're willing to move to those edges, you have a profoundly positive effect on the planet and the world. I just want to encourage people to do that. And if they need help with that I'm here I'm more than willing to help them with that transition and change.

Gresham Harkless 14:22

Awesome, well, thank you so much. I appreciate that, I appreciate, you know all your time and that reminder for us to continue to be bold and to move along those edges and get outside of the lines and I just color outside the lines. I like to say so I definitely appreciate that. We'll have the links in the show notes as well and I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.

Dr Elisa Robyn 14:41

You too. Thank you so much.

OUTRO 14:43

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