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Podcast Interview with Sahar Roques

Sahar is an Iranian immigrant, a naturalized American who fled to America to pursue her higher education degree which she was banned by the government of Iran due to her religious beliefs. Here in the U.S., she attended the University of Maryland, College Park, and received her B.A in Cell Biology and Molecular Genetics. She worked at biotech companies for a few years before she realized a cooperate job was not a good fit for her or her growing family. Sahar's passion for cooking fresh homemade meals and research proof of positive impacts of gut health and a fit brain were driving forces to establish her Persian Fusion simmer sauce company, Spice of Life, L.L.C.

  • CEO Hack: Planning when setting my goals and to-do list. I exercise and also meditate a lot
  • CEO Nugget: A quote by Gretchen Rubin, “Don’t let the PERFECT be the enemy of the GOOD”
  • CEO Defined: Having a flexible time to tackle my task and making the world a better place

Website: https://www.enjoyspiceoflife.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Spice-of-Life-LLC-107186044331128/?modal=admin_todo_tour

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00:02 – Intro

Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkless values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO Podcast.

00:30 – Gresham Harkless

Hello, Hello, Hello. This is Gresh from the I AM CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today Sahar Rock of Spice of Life LLC. Sahar, it's awesome to have you on the show.

00:39 – Sahar Roques

Hi, thank you for having me.

00:41 – Gresham Harkless

No problem, super excited to have you on. Before we jump in, I wanted to read a little bit more about Sahar so you can hear about all the awesome things that she's doing. Sahar is an Iranian immigrant, a neutralized American who fled to America to pursue her higher education degree which she was banned by the government of Iran due to her religious beliefs. Here in the U.S., she attended the University of Maryland, College Park, and received her B. A in Cell Biology and Molecular Genetics. She worked at biotech companies for a few years before she realized a cooperate job was not a good fit for her or her growing family. Sahar's passion for cooking fresh homemade meals and research proof of positive impacts on gut health and a fit brain were driving forces to establish her Persian Fusion simmer sauce company, Spice of Life, L.L.C. Sahar, are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?

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01:30 – Sahar Roques

Yes, let's begin.

01:32 – Gresham Harkless

Let's do it. So I know I touched on it a little bit, but I wanted to hear a little bit more about what I call your CEO story and why did you get started with your business.

01:39 -Sahar Roques

Sure. Well, as a lot of CEOs would say, I didn't plan to become an entrepreneur and a CEO. And I think that life kind of directed me towards that. My parents are both entrepreneurs and seeing them being a business and seeing them working so hard, I always thought, okay, I'm gonna have more time for my family and I'm just gonna work for other people and not worry about things outside of work. When I come home, I don't think about work anymore. So I decided actually to pursue higher education, which I couldn't do in Iran. So I came here and I'm very passionate about health. And so I did cell biology and genetics and worked in biotech companies who produce some products which help in research for disease and finding cures and finding pharmaceuticals kind of use those to make some drugs for Alzheimer's, and cardiovascular diseases.

So I thought this way I can help the community And it was going well till you know you get married and have 1 kid and then 2 kids and you feel like 2 parents working full-time and with 2 kids and it's just the scheduling didn't work out. Working for corporate, it's not just sometimes it's not 9 to 5, sometimes you have to put in more hours, which putting the kids in preschool really didn't work out that way. So I decided to basically change my job from a biotech and I went to pharmaceutical and I changed from permanent being actually went to temp job just because I wanted to kind of manage my hours a bit more. But then that didn't work out. After a few months, they let me go. After that, I felt like a corporate job was not really a good fit for me anymore and I always had a passion for cooking. I started cooking when I was very small because as I said my parents were quite busy and I'm the eldest and I was always doing the cooking at home as I was a kid. I have 2 siblings, 2 other siblings who are much younger than me.

So, then, when I was in high school, I was cooking from the recipe books and liked things that my parents wouldn't do and I always had a passion. When I came here it was actually quite nice you know I was still doing a lot of cooking from scratch from fresh and after having kids working at the same time you start having no time to cook kind of fresh meals, especially from scratch, which takes a long time. Start doing takeouts, deliveries, and buying ready-to-go, ready-to-eat foods, which actually put quite a lot of weight because of that. And I had a craving for why is that the case. It was kind of bothering me and I decided to come up with a way especially Persian food had takes a long time to kind of get to perfection. It's mostly stews and stews to get to the point of being able to like have that aroma and all those things kind of bring together a good kind of meal. It takes about 2 to 3 hours just to cook it, not to mention the preparation.

So I didn't have any time to do that anymore. And I thought and seeing all the other working moms, I saw that everybody is kind of the same way, especially after having kids, you start going out with the same kind of moms who have little ones and nobody has time to cook anything and everybody is kind of wanting to eat healthier, but it's hard to do. And I and a lot of people, a lot of Americans especially, noticed that they don't, they're not familiar with Persian cuisine. They think Persian cuisine is kebab and that's just 1 aspect of it. So it's kind of homemade stews was 1 thing that kind of a lot of people didn't know about. I thought that would be a good way to have, you know, like healthy food and something different that nobody had seen in the other than Iranian stores, you don't really see anything in the shops. So I started to let's say bring up all those things together. It took about a few years to kind of think about what direction I wanted to go to. First I thought about frozen food and then I felt frozen food would kind of, it's not for everybody. You have to kind of do like 1 or 2 servings. And so I went to the simmer sauces. And now I have 2 lines. 1 is the fresh herbs and beans, and another 1 is the eggplant tomato, which is both, especially the fresh herbs and beans are very refreshing and they're all made from scratch, like fresh herbs every time. So yeah, that's kind of where it all came about.

08:12 – Gresham Harkless

I definitely appreciate that. And it's so funny, I was reading something, it was a while ago, but it talked a lot about a lot of the immigrants, especially, who don't see something when they come here to the US and they think about it back home. And, you know, a lot of times it's cooking, a lot of times it's cuisine and food. And it's so funny that you were talking about, you know, as a child, having that kind of seeds planted for what you're doing now and not seeing it as much and people not being aware of Iranian food other than kebabs and now kind of creating something so that we can kind of all enjoy it as well. So I was going to ask you for what I call your secret sauce and you might enjoy this, but this is what you feel kind of sets you or your brand apart and makes you unique. What do you think your secret sauce is?

08:55 – Sahar Roques

Well, I think my secret sauce would be the homemade conscious Persian cuisine, simmer sauces that everyone with different dietary restrictions like vegans, and gluten-free people can enjoy because I don't actually put any meat or anything on it so people can decide if they want to do it, especially the 1 with the bean really doesn't need anything extra so I think being healthy conscious because I actually put canola oil in 1 of my sauces and I read a lot of books and I was reading Brain Maker, I was reading Brain Maker and another 1 was Deep Nutrition by Dr. Shanahan. And they were saying how vegetable oils are actually not good for you. And they are making the body go through bad responses because our body is not used to hydrogenated oils. So I changed my canola oil to olive oil. After I had everything done, I had to change nutritional facts. I had to change the label just because I'm very health conscious and I wanna change the way we eat. Let's say 1 meal at a time.

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10:37 – Gresham Harkless

Awesome, Awesome, Awesome. So I wanted to switch gears a little bit and I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO hack. So this could be like an app, a book, or a habit that you have, but what's something that makes you more effective and efficient?

10:50 – Sahar Roques

Well, you yourself as an entrepreneur probably know a lot of these, and I think planning is 1 thing that is very important to have when you're trying to set goals from getting a big goal to breaking it down into smaller goals and breaking it down to to-do lists. And I think I do that, and then I try to get 3 things done on top of my list as a weekly plan. So I do 3 things. I plan 3 things to do during the week. And I break it down to the to-do list that needs to be done to achieve that goal, those goals during the week. Another thing is I try not to forget myself during all those kinds of busy days, especially with the family, with all these things going on with the business. And I think it's because I do try to exercise and meditate. I think those are the 2 other things that help me go, go through all those ups and downs, Especially when you're very nervous and I don't know, I think running kind of settles me and meditation. I don't do meditation often, but I try to do it at least once a week, I try to do running at least 3 times a week just to get my mind away from everything else, let's say.

12:38 – Gresham Harkless

I love those hacks. I wanted to ask you now for what I call a CEO nugget. And this could be a word of wisdom or a piece of advice. It might be something if you have to do a time machine, you would tell your younger business self.

12:51 – Sahar Roques

Wow. I have a quote if you don't mind. I'm going to read. It's by Gretchen Rubin. And she says, don't let the perfect be the enemy of good. And I think that's going to be a good nugget for everybody who wants to achieve something that I really didn't know what I was getting into. When I started the business, it took about 2 years to go through all the, let's say, stuff that has to be done before you start your business. And I think you learn as you go. You don't have to be perfect in the beginning to start something. And having a growth mindset as well rather than a fixed mindset, that's another thing that is very important.

13:42 – Gresham Harkless

Now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. And we're hoping to have different quote-unquote CEOs on this show. So Sahar, what does being a CEO mean to you?

13:51 – Sahar Roques

Being a CEO means having a flexible time that I can basically take care of everything at the time that I want to, rather than being a 9 to 5 person. I think a lot of times I do work after the kids go to bed which is like good timing, very quiet And another thing would be I like to make the world a better place, let's say, with my health-conscious meals. And also if you follow me on Instagram, You can see that I have a lot of book recommendations and book notes that I do with the health conscious stuff and inspirational books.

14:41 – Gresham Harkless

Appreciate that. I appreciate your time even more. What I wanted to do is pass you the mic, so to speak, Just to see if there's anything additional you can let our readers and listeners know and of course how best they can get a hold of you Find out about your Instagram and see all the awesome things that you're working on.

14:53 – Sahar Roques

Sure another thing that I was gonna say reading lots of books and listening to a lot of podcasts And joining a lot of similar communities, similar-minded communities are really good ways, at least for me or I'm sure for other CEOs to grow and to able to keep themselves updated. And you can find me on Instagram Sahar Rock at Spice of Life. And you can go to my website and it's enjoyspiceoflife.com. And you can get my recipes there because I started with blogging recipes and I still have tons of Persian and non-Persian recipes. They're all supposed to be kind of healthy. There is a lot of vegetarian vegan stuff going on there. You can always enjoy those recipes as well. And you can also shop for sauces there.

15:56 – Gresham Harkless

Awesome, Awesome, Awesome. Thank you so much again, Sahar. We will have those links and information in the show notes and blogging is near and dear to my heart. So make sure to definitely check out the blog. And I definitely appreciate that reminder as well, too, about making sure you're aware of the environment you have around you, whether that be people around you or the things that you're also putting into, your mind as well, whether that be podcasts or books that you touched on as well too. So I love that reminder. Appreciate you again, and I hope you have a great rest of the day.

16:23 – Outro

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00:02 - Intro

Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkless values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO Podcast.

00:30 - Gresham Harkless

Hello, Hello, Hello. This is Gresh from the I AM CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Jeree Augen of Pinned Up. Jeree, it's awesome to have you on the show.

00:39 - Jeri Ogden

So glad to be here. Super excited to do this interview with you.

00:44 - Gresham Harkless

No problem. Super excited to have you on as well too and hear about all the awesome things you're doing. Before we jump in, I wanted to read a little bit more about Jeri so you can hear about all these awesome things that she's doing. Jeri is an educator, writer, culture curator, and designer from Pittsburgh, but has called DC her second home since 2005. She has always loved accessories. She's always had a lot to say. Pinned Up allows her to put both of these passions together. Jeree, are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?

01:13 - Jeri Ogden

I am ready.

01:15 - Gresham Harkless

Awesome, Let's do it. So to kick everything off, I wanted to rewind the clock a little bit. Take us and tell us a little bit more about what I call your CEO story. We'll let you get started with the business.

01:24 - Jeri Ogden

So I launched pinned up on November 2nd, 2019. It had been an idea of mine though for a little bit of time before that, probably for like, honestly, almost a year before that. And I just kind of was like, oh, I'm busy with work. Oh, I have this. Oh, I have that. And I do still work a 9 to 5. I work in educator engagement for a nonprofit organization. So when I switched over to that role, my work-life balance somewhat shifted for me. And it was like, okay, I actually do have the time to work on this. I have been calling it my passion project for a long time. So I was excited to launch. So yeah, November 2, 2019.

02:05 - Gresham Harkless

Nice. And it kind of sounds like as you said, when I said when I read your bio, you kind of have the seeds of it planted for at least there for a long time. And then once that opportunity opened up, it seemed like you were kind of ran with it.

02:17 - Jeri Ogden

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Yeah, exactly. It was like, I had always had a lot to say, which is why I kind of put that in my bio. And people, you know, would, I think, kind of sometimes hear my different sayings or like, there were certain catch phrases I was known for. And those kind of became some of the first buttons that I made. And then from there, they've developed into different things that I want to express and have other people express.

02:40 - Gresham Harkless

Absolutely. No, I love that. And, you know, being a creative myself, I always loved the way that the creativity kind of comes out and manifests itself in different products and services that we're able to kind of create. So I know you have the clients that you serve. Could you take us through a little bit more about what pinned up is, and how exactly you serve the clients you work with?

02:59 - Jeri Ogden

Yeah, So pinned up, buttons for your emotions. It's a very long title, so I just go with pinned up. So a lot of my clients, honestly, are other educators. Educators know each other, so that's who we kinda hang out with. So a lot of my initial clients and customers were educators who wanted to put something on their lapel or put something on their lanyard while they're at work without necessarily, you know, having to say much. So as a button wearer myself, that was also why I decided to land on buttons because I wore buttons. I remember teaching third, fourth, and fifth-grade students when I taught in Houston, Texas and I used to wear a simple black power fist button and my students when I first wore it, what's that mean, Ms. Ogden? What is this?

So that launches this whole conversation around you know the Black Power Fist and the Black Power Movement and the Black Panthers, and they were like in awe, you know? So as I was making the buttons, that's what I was thinking about. What educator is gonna go to a conference or be in their classroom and want something to say, but how can they do that subtly? You know, I'm not a person who wears always necessarily t-shirts with a lot of words on them. So buttons are that simple way to spark that conversation and to support particular movements.

04:10 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, absolutely. I love that. And you know, as we're recording right now, you know, We see that a little bit in the NBA and basketball where you get those subtle things that kind of express how you feel. But I absolutely love that. And I love that obviously being an educator, you're able to create something that connects you with obviously other educators, but also the students as well too and gives those teaching opportunities.

04:31 -Jeri Ogden

Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably some of the feedback that I hear most from people who buy the buttons is what kind of conversations they have because someone notices them.

04:41 -Gresham Harkless

Yeah, absolutely. And I think you can definitely get that opportunity to do that. And it kind of sparks that opportunity to kind of teach, learn, and create that deeper connection. So now I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce. This could be for you personally or your business, but what do you feel kind of sets you apart and makes you unique?

04:59 - Jeri Ogden

I think what sets me apart honestly is that my buttons are, I put them out in collections so they're designed to wear multiple together but also stand alone. Also, it's kind of like a throwback because enamel pins have started to take over the accessory industry and I'm just like, no, we're just going to do a simple circle square little, you know, quarter, 1-quarter inch button. And it's like, oh yeah, like this takes me back to like blue jeans, 70s rock star jacket. So I think that's kind of what sets me apart. But definitely, the idea that I released the buttons as collections has been something that has been people like that, You know, so for example, I have the Sistis collection where all 4 of those buttons are around black womanhood and supporting black women in a variety of ways, or the self-care collection. And that's what those buttons represent. So the collections have been something I think is very different than what I've seen other button and pin companies do.

06:04 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, absolutely. Is there a reason why you decided to do the collections? Is it so that people have different alternatives or they kind of maybe within themselves also tell a story as well?

06:13 - Jeri Ogden

Exactly that. So for me, it was like, what are these things that you want to say about this topic that kind of go together? So when I think about Black womanhood for me, it is saying her name, it is trusted Black women, it is these 4 women who have meant something to me, and it's also we're more than strong. Like when I think about black womanhood, those are kind of the things that come to mind. When I think about what it means to be an empowered educator, then these ideas come to mind. So yeah, I released it that way because it helps to tell the story around that subject matter.

06:44 - Gresham Harkless

Nice, I absolutely love that. And as you said, I mean, you get that opportunity to see that holistic, because I think the holistic view on these stories are different movements or different things that are that we individually are especially passionate about. I think so many times when you sometimes just have that 1 button, a lot of times it doesn't give you that opportunity to hear about those different aspects, those different stories, those different movements within a movement as well.

07:06 - Jeri Ogden

I totally agree. Like even today, I'm rocking, you know, the Say Her Name and Trust Black Women, because that's where I am right now. Like if you do these 2 things, your life will be so much better.

07:18 - Gresham Harkless

Absolutely. And I think it definitely, as you said, as well, creates that awareness around there. Because a lot of times when you have something and you showcase that, a lot of people may not know. So it provides that conversation opportunity. And I think definitely in today's time we need more enough conversations about some of the things that are going on in the world.

07:35 - Jeri Ogden

Absolutely, totally agree.

07:38 -Gresham Harkless

Awesome, awesome, awesome. So I wanted to switch gears a little bit and I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO hack. So this could be like an app, a book, or a habit that you have, but what's something that makes you more effective and efficient?

07:50 - Jeri Ogden

I think what makes me more efficient being as though I'm running a business and still working for someone else, I think the thing that makes me more efficient is understanding when to say no and what to say no to. So I have a button that says no, a complete sentence. And I think being empowered to say no without explanation, without feeling guilty is honestly that hack. And like what that comes from is really being able to look at my calendars. I have all the apps that keep me organized and I read these different books from entrepreneurs who are successful, but it's really about like how I care for myself so that I don't get burnt out and that care is sometimes being able to say no to what's not going to be best for Penda or be best for me or be best for my 9 to 5. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs struggle with saying no. I really do. And I think that that's what has helped me. And I'm very young in the entrepreneur journey, it's like I said, I just launched in November, but it has helped me to put out what I wanna put out. Oh, every time I put out a button, someone tells me, oh, you should put this on the button, you should put this on the button. I'm like, thanks. So being able to say no, I would say it's my hack, honestly.

09:07 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, and it's an extremely powerful hack. And I mean, I think that I feel like the older I've gotten, the more I've been more comfortable in saying no, but it's so important because you have to be able to kind of guard your time, guard your energy, guard your focus, and to be able to kind of put that focus into where it needs to be. And I think there's so many opportunities that you have, so many different buttons that you might want to create or people want you to create that you kind of can quickly end up running somebody else's race instead of staying true to your mission and what you're trying to do and accomplish.

09:38 - Jeri Ogden

Absolutely. I love that you said running someone else's race. You know, I said this on another podcast and I shared this advice a friend said to me 1 time, when you stay in your lane, there is no traffic. So it's like if you just focus on what you're trying to do you don't have to worry about everything else around you.

09:55 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, absolutely and it can get really noisy and I think that's why it's even more important to know your race to run your race and understand exactly what that is because as more and more opportunities come, as even more and more success happens, it starts to get a little bit noisier. People start pulling at you in so many different ways, and you have to make sure you're staying true and you remember exactly why you're doing what you're doing.

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10:16 - Jeri Ogden

Yeah, absolutely.

10:18 - Gresham Harkless

Awesome, so now I wanted to ask you what I call your CEO nugget. This could be a word of wisdom or a piece of advice, might be what you touched on before, but it might be something you would tell yourself if you were to hop into a time machine.

10:31 - Jeri Ogden

Honestly, if I were to hop into a time machine, I would tell myself to start sooner. Like I'm happy with when I started, but really looking back, there was some confidence lacking that didn't allow me to start sooner. And I just think about like, Oh, I could have been at that festival, or I could have met that person. But I also understand that's what's for me never misses me. Right. So it's going to come, but those opportunities will come back around. But I think that's what I would tell myself is that start now, you know, start, start now. So don't wait until every moment is perfect and the perfect investor has decided to share your product invest in your product or share your Instagram. But start when you have the idea and you feel that you're ready. Just go ahead and start. Because I made a lot of excuses. I said I had the idea for a year, you know, I made a lot of reasons why I couldn't start the year before.

11:24 - Gresham Harkless

Absolutely. And was it the job opportunity that really opened up that opportunity to make you, that opened up the door for you to understand and see and take that action towards that?

11:33 - Jeri Ogden

That was a big part of it. And honestly, working with a really good friend of mine who runs, Latonya, she runs a journey house and seeing her journey. And I was like, we were just working together at this.

11:45 - Gresham Harkless

I can do this. 

11:46 - Jeri Ogden

You know what I mean? Like, I was tasting her teas and talking about packaging with her and if I was doing it with her, why couldn't I do it with myself, you know? So yes, the job did help, but there was also, there was some fear there, you know? So I had to, like I think that there's an opportunity when even you're afraid to leave. And I think that's what I would tell myself, if I was taking a time machine back to say like, go ahead, girl, you got this, it's gonna be fine.

12:14 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, absolutely. And it's so incredibly powerful. You know, having that environment around you and being around other entrepreneurs and business owners in and of itself gives you confidence. I know when I first started my business, it was being part of a networking group that actually helped me to understand and gain confidence because I didn't think I could do it before. And it was only regularly being around those people to say, Oh, Hey, maybe you can do this. Maybe you can do that. And it starts, to create that opportunity, that energy towards that. So love that, that CEO nugget and I appreciate it. And now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO we're hoping to have different quote-unquote CEOs on the show so Jaree what does being a CEO mean to you?

12:53 - Jeri Ogden

You know it's funny that you asked me this because I was like see am I a CEO? Am I? You know I don't manage other people but I think being a CEO is it's it's taking your idea executing your idea and then moving forward and what it means to grow your product, your business, your idea, whatever that looks like. So you being the driver of that engine, of that ship, I think for me, that's what being a CEO is. And it's like, I'm in charge of my time. I don't answer to anyone else. I decide what products are going out, and what Instagram image I wanna put out. So I think for me, the CEO is being empowered. That's the biggest part of being a CEO is that I have control over the look, the brand, and the interactions, all of those things belong to me and that is much different than when you work for someone else

13:52 - Gresham Harkless

Absolutely, and I love that an empowerment is that empowerment piece is so important We kind of touched on a little bit on the power of saying no and how important that can be where you're you know they say as soon as you're saying yes to something, you're saying no to a million other things. So you have to be very clear on what you're saying yes to and being empowered to be able to make those decisions, whether that manifests itself and you know, who you work with, who you partner with, what podcasts that come on, or what actual buttons to actually create as well too. That gives you that empowerment to be able to kind of see the world as you hope to see it.

14:25 - Jeri Ogden

Yeah, absolutely. And being empowered, I think especially as, you know, In my 30s, black woman, like it just means so much to me to be a business owner and then to help other young women or other young men, but particularly other young women have come to me and said, hey, can you help me with my Instagram page? Or what do you think about this logo? It just feels so good that someone would even like to look at what Pinned Up is doing and say, hey, I want some advice from Jeread because what she's done in these 689 months is amazing, you know? And I think I just, I'm so honored and humbled by the other young women who have come to me and asked for my help.

15:03 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, absolutely. And as you said, you know, Hanger Nugget is so important for us to take those leaps because often we forget how powerful we are. We forget how much of an impact we have. And sometimes the things we see and sometimes the things that we don't see, but we never get to that point if we don't take that leap so I appreciate you for taking that leap and reminding us of doing the same.

15:21 - Jeri Ogden

My pleasure.

15:23 - Gresham Harkless

Awesome, awesome, awesome, and Jerri truly appreciates your time and that definition as well. What I wanted to do is pass you the mic so to speak just to see if there's anything additional you can let our readers and listeners know and of course how best they can get a hold of you and find out about all the awesome things you're working on.

15:36 - Jeri Ogden

Yeah, so I would say to anyone who's reading or listening or hanging out with us that you know you have something inside of you and Don't diminish it, don't downplay it, don't second guess it. Like whatever that little seed is that's growing inside of you, water it, flourish it. And it will grow into something amazing and that is so powerful. Figure out your corner of the world and make it your own. To reach me is to up emotions on Instagram. That's the website. My DMS is open. Feel free to laugh at me. And I'm here for networking and community. So it means a lot to me when people do reach out to me.

16:19 - Gresham Harkless

Awesome, Awesome, Awesome. We will definitely have those links and information in the show notes, but again I appreciate kind of the reminder and even the education that we've gotten as well too about knowing this special thing that you're thinking about, that you want to do, that you maybe feel like you can't do. A lot of times you just have to take those steps and water, you know, those seeds as you said as well too. And that's when something phenomenal starts to blossom and grow sometimes beyond what we even thought possible. So appreciate that reminder, appreciate your time again, and I hope you have a great rest.

17:00 - Outro

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