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Podcast Interview with Rogers Healy

Rogers Healy was born to build, market, and sell. Healy is the CEO and Owner of The Rogers Healy Companies, a brand that started in the real estate sector, and has grown into a handful of successful other divisions under the Rogers Healy name. Rogers’ real estate career launched in 2001, while an undergrad at Southern Methodist University. Rogers founded Rogers Healy and Associates Real Estate in 2006 and turned it into one of the most successful independently owned real estate firms in the country. Outside of the office, Rogers surrounds himself with his wife, their dogs, and music.

  • CEO Hack: Music
  • CEO Nugget: Have perspective and keep it moving in life
  • CEO Defined: Pulling out the greatest leadership qualities no matter what

Website: http://www.rogershealymedia.com/

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Twitter: @RogersHealy @MyRealtorRogers
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00:00 – Intro

Are you ready to hear business stories and learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and level up your business from awesome CEOs, entrepreneurs, and founders without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresh values your time and is ready to share with you the valuable info you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO podcast.

00:25 – Rogers Healy

Hello. Hello. Hello. Keep it moving. That's it. You know, life is not short. Life is really freaking long and you got to keep it moving. And I think that having perspective is something that you're either born with wisdom or you have to earn it. And unfortunately, myself and people like me had to earn my wisdom through, you know, getting myself burned a lot. But if you keep it moving and you can feel things as they come at you, then life becomes a different kind of enjoyable.

00:54 – Gresham Harkless

This is Gretchen from the I AM CEO podcast. I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Rogers Healy of the Rogers Healy Companies. Rogers, It's great to have you on the show.

01:01 – Rogers Healy

Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

01:03 – Gresham Harkless

Yes, I'm super excited to have you on as well too. And what I wanted to do is just read a little bit more about Rogers so you can hear about all the awesome things that he was doing. And Rogers was born to build, market, and sell. Rogers is the CEO and owner of the Rogers Healey's companies, a brand that started in the real estate sector and has grown into a handful of successful other divisions under the Rogers Healey name.

Rogers Healey's real estate career launched in 2001 while he was an undergrad at Southern Methodist University Rogers founded Rogers Healey and Associates Real Estate in 2006 and turned it into one of the most successful, independently owned real estate firms in the country. Outside of the office, Roger surrounds himself with his wife, their dogs, and music of course. And he's also been a previous contributor to our CEO, Blog Nation. So super excited to have you on, Rogers. Are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?

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01:47 – Rogers Healy

I'm ready, man. That was a great intro. So thank you very much and excited to chat.

01:52 – Gresham Harkless

Yes, absolutely excited to have you on. So what I wanted to do to kind of kick everything off, what was it, we're 01:00 a little bit. I know you, I touched on a little bit when I read your bio here a little bit more on how you got started, what I call your CEO story.

02:02 – Rogers Healy

Yeah, I think that, you know, everyone's got their own kind of path to relative success and mine's a little bit unique where real estate is never what I wanted to do. And I still don't feel like real estate is my passion. And I find a way to leverage that in a healthy way. But long story short, my story grew up just kind of a perpetual failure in a respectful way where I tried a lot of things that didn't work out in large part because I didn't know how to actually work hard.

And, had a lot of stuff as a child that interested me, but never really went all in other than the music stuff. I've always been a collector of memorabilia, which is probably another conversation, and long story short, and college, just got motivated for the first time really ever and wanted to go and redefine myself and find significance and work and you know I was the funny fat kid growing up and wanted to become the funny in shape guy that maybe had some leadership opportunities.

And so very long story short, I went to undergrad at Southern Methodist University here in Dallas. And a lot of the student body is not from the area, whether they're local or from, you know, suburbs. And I knew the area because I grew up down the street. And so when it came time to go and move, I was kind of the sherpa and would just go and help people just because it was something that was fun for me. And then I realized I could get paid. Long story short, I went and got my real estate license, and took it more than anybody in the history of Texas.

I took the test 22 times, which is one of those records that you can't wait to get broken, but it's been kind of part of my testimony. And just fell in love with what the business stood for and the relationship part. And then I learned that the business is also full of people that are just working for the money. And so I had to have kind of multiple come to Jesus meetings, with Jesus and with myself where I just had a calling randomly, which is a whole long story short.

I was with my old roommate who was a professional athlete and was just kind of lost, wasn't proud of where I was working, wasn't really proud of what I was doing, and just kind of had leadership qualities that were not getting honed in on and he just said, why don't you start a real estate company? I was like, okay, and that's literally the origin of it. And so started it started to grind differently, started to have a different kind of purpose.

And like you said, I mean, we've grown it to something that is really cool. And we're really proud. But it's a mission at this point. And you know, I think when you take a turn in your career and you don't work for the money or the fame or the recognition and you do it because you really wanna go and change lives, it sounds cliche and cheesy, but it just takes on a different meaning. And for us, that's what we do.

And I think that for me to be a CEO, obviously it means being a leader, but it also means being a servant leader, but it also means helping people find their leadership qualities. And a lot of them maybe didn't think they had it in them. And that's what's added to our growth these last couple of years. And it's just kind of mutated into something powerful, but in a different way.

05:09 – Gresham Harkless

Nice. Well, I definitely appreciate you telling that story and the words that kind of stuck out to me, purpose, mission, motivation, all those things that you kind of had that kind of sounds like became your North Star to kind of drive you and everything that you're doing. And I appreciate this story so much because I think so many times we hear and see people's success, but we don't hear that journey.

We don't hear kind of like the maybe less than ideal times and how that transition and maybe even built that foundation into what motivates them, what becomes their purpose in their mission. So I love that you talked about that and it kind of sounds like that has planted the seeds for all the awesome things you're doing now.

05:41 – Rogers Healy

Yeah, man, you have to stay humble. And I think that as a man of faith, I'm kind of past the point of being like, well, this had to happen to me. It's like, I don't want to deal with that kind of stuff anymore, so I have to just avoid just getting sucked into the vortex of success. And I think what attracts people to this company is that I'm relatively successful and I don't let it dictate my life.

Obviously, I'm sitting in front of a wall of awards, but yeah, I think just keeping it real, helps people from getting ruined. And I hate to say it like that, but real estate, I don't come from a wealthy family, and most people in real estate don't. And then when you start making money and you get access, it'll make or break you. And I want people to stay on the straight and narrow.

06:32 – Gresham Harkless

Yeah, that makes so much sense. And I feel like to me, it sounds a lot of, related to character. And a lot of times when you're talking about somebody's character, you just, you really find that out during the least, you know, the least ideal times when things are kind of going quote unquote bad, but also the best times when you have everything in the world and you're killing it, you start to really understand somebody's character.

And I think so many times we can get attached to like what we do in the kind of the benefits of the success that we're having the success we're not having that becomes our identity, but to be able to kind of understand this is who I am. Like you mentioned, man of faith and all of those things, building the foundation of who you are, the essence of who you are.

I think you can really kind of, you know, be that that calm flow, you know, throughout everything that's happening in the world. And so I know you touched a little bit upon, you know, the companies and everything you're doing and building. Can you take us through a little bit more about that Robert Healy company what you're doing, and how you're serving the clients you work with?

07:20 – Rogers Healy

Yeah, so the Rogers Healy companies consist of Rogers Healy and Associates Real Estate, which is predominantly residential. We have Rogers Healy and Associates Commercial Real Estate. We have Healy Global Real Estate Relocation, and we have Healy Property Management. So it's essentially any service-based real estate item we do under our roof here.

We do it all over the world. And we've got right around 450 employees that, you know, like some of them are here all the time some of them we see the Christmas party some of them we don't ever see. But yeah, it's all just the very old-school basic real estate positions and we just put a twist on it, and our recruiting model is unique where we really don't historically recruit top producers.

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We recruit people who have never done real estate or are about to quit real estate. And I think by doing that, you keep the environment full of humility and kindness and relief versus entitlement and drama. And so I think to do that in a fairly dramatic industry has been a pretty cool accomplishment in itself. But yeah, it's any real estate, any moving, anywhere in the world. And our biggest footprint is here in North Texas.

08:33 – Gresham Harkless

Nice. I love that. When you were saying your recruitment model, and how you attract people, it reminded me of this quote, it's always darkest before dawn. I think so many times we forget that when things aren't going well, a lot of times there's a lot of opportunity there. And sometimes like you mentioned the word humility and understanding that you can maybe do things differently.

Sometimes when you're in that period, that's when you can make the most change and impact to propel yourself in a different way. And I don't know if you consider that to be like what I like to call your secret sauce, the thing you feel kind of sets you or the organization part of makes it unique, but is it that recruitment model? And it sounds like that's a strong underpinning within the foundation that kind of sets you apart.

09:05 – Rogers Healy

Yeah, and look, we always want to meet with people who could add value here, but I saw the movie Moneyball when it came out and it changed my entire perspective. And I took an approach where, you know, like I wasn't a good athlete growing up, but if I was decently good and I could have played college, I would have rather and I was saying I was good at basketball. I would rather go be a starter at a second-tier school than ride the bench at UNC or at Duke. And I think that that's the model here.

Also from a recruiting perspective, our best recruiters are our agents. And if you go and bring somebody the ability to go and find there, you know, their star potential, then their loyalty and they become family as opposed to just divas and neediness and just, it's just, you know, all that crap. But yeah, I think that is kind of our secret sauce, but we also train the crap out of our agents and we have marketing and we have great office space and we have great leadership.

So, you know, for the first like 8 or 9 years, the company, the secret sauce was it's fun, right? It's like I'm young and I'm single and I'm energetic and I'm going to be available to help you. And then it just becomes exhausting. And so we had to go implement the things that we had never done. And when you couple all that together, it just creates a different kind of monster that someone can't just go and buy. And we're just, we're really proud of it.

10:23 – Gresham Harkless

Absolutely. So I wanted to switch gears a little bit and I want to ask you for what I call a CEO hack. So this could be like an app, a book, or a habit that you have. But what's something you feel makes you more effective and efficient?

10:36 – Rogers Healy

You know, there's a lot of advice that people can give you. And I think that some great advice is to surround yourself with people who are smarter than you. But for me, I have to I have to trick myself. So I have to always be I have to have my next distraction. And I think that in the world that I live in, every single day, it could be a letdown or it could be a game changer. And to have something that you're looking forward to next just keeps me humble and it also gives me perspective. And so I'm not some kind of guru, I'm not a reader.

I like to my news is going to be, you know, on Twitter on social media, maybe on TV or the newspaper, but I move like this. And so for me it's music, and to be able to have, you know, almost everything that I do in life I have music playing and it's normally to the beat of what I need to be doing appropriately. And I think by doing that, you know, music is powerful and it gives people a different feeling, but I think it just keeps you in a place that is healthy.

And for me, every opportunity I have to talk about the power of music, I use it because I think that it could, it could literally save somebody's life, but also I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's something that I just take a different kind of seriously. And it's been The coolest gift for me other than being a Christian is introducing people to the power of music and I can't sing I can't dance. I'm not an artist but I know that's part of my mission in life, and to do that that's my life hack is to find a way to go and know that if I'm having a day that I need to go and just feel good, I can go put on some Stevie Wonder.

If I'm having a day I need to go and think deeply, I can put on you know whatever it is and that's been a way for me to trick myself where it gives me that childlike approach to life where if I sit and let my brain perpetuate into the dirtiness of some people, then I turn angry. But, you know, it's a simple little thing that I can do. And it makes me feel good.

12:27 – Gresham Harkless

I love that hack. And so I wanted to ask you now for what I call CEO nugget. So this could be a word of wisdom or a piece of advice. It might be something you would tell a client or if you happen to be a time machine, you might tell your younger business self.

12:40 – Rogers Healy

A little nugget. Keep it moving. That's it. You know, life is not short. Life is really freaking long. And you got to keep it moving and I think that having perspective is something that you're either born with wisdom or you have to earn it and unfortunately people like me had to earn my wisdom through you know getting myself burned a lot but if you keep it moving and you can feel things as they come at you, then life becomes a different kind of enjoyable, which I think compartmentalization is the devil's playground. And I think that when life happens, embrace it, enjoy it, and then keep moving. And I think if you take that approach, and you move at a quick pace while processing, then you have opportunities that you probably never thought would have come about.

13:24 – Gresham Harkless

And so now I want to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. We're hoping to have different quote-unquote CEOs on the show. So Rogers, what does being a CEO mean to you?

13:34 – Rogers Healy

I think everybody wants to be led and I think everybody wants to be a leader. And I think being a CEO is finding a way to pull out the greatest leadership qualities from everybody, no matter what. And there's a quote by Picasso, not a big art guy, but I like Picasso. And the quote simply says, the 2 most important days of your life are the day that you were born and the day that you find out why.

And for me, my why is going and bringing confidence to people that are in my life, whether they work for me or they are my friend or maybe they're not my friend. And I think being a CEO is not about entitlement and living on an island. It's about including and walking alongside others and introducing them to ways to think, which could lead to them going and impacting someone else. And I think that the purpose of life is giving people love and faith and leading them well, which in turn has them lead you as well.

14:31 – Gresham Harkless

Yeah, that's what's so powerful. I love that definition and perspective. And I think so many times we forget, we think our gifts are something that should be, you know, for it and protected and, you know, not shared with anybody. But I love that aspect and how you, you know, you talk about like, this is what you understand your purpose is, and your purpose is to empower those other people.

And you hear it, you know, and how you have been able to build and create the culture within, you know, your companies, but I think it's something that we often will forget that the opportunity that we have is not to be held, or, you know, not shared with others is really to make that impact in other people's lives and it creates that ripple effect in so many ways.

15:05 – Rogers Healy

So, have a great question.

15:06 – Gresham Harkless

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Well, Roger, truly appreciate you for hopping in. I appreciate your time even more. What I wanted to do is pass you the mic, so to speak, just to see if there's anything additional that you can let our readers and listeners know. And of course, how best they can get ahold of you and find out about all the awesome things you and your team are working on.

15:20 – Rogers Healy

You can get ahold of us on the Internet. So, yeah, no, we're on, we're on social media. My first name, R0GERS last name's Healy. And we've got some fun accounts on Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook, et cetera. But yeah, this is awesome. And I think that this is what life is all about. And I've done this for 21 years. And I literally work as much as I did on day one.

And it's because I love what I do. And if you're watching this, if you're listening to this, and you're questioning yourself, and you already know the answer, I've never once questioned what I should be doing, and as I said at the beginning real estate is simply the vehicle that I use to go and change my version of the world.

15:59 – Gresham Harkless

Absolutely love that So we will definitely have the links and information in the show notes. It kind of reminds me of a quote, whether you think you can't, or you think you can't, you're right. So remembering that we do have the tools and everything within us and just kind of flipping that switch and understanding, we do have everything that we need and to kind of hear that motivation and be around the people as well too, that aspire us to do that and give us that purpose and that motivation and that awareness is so huge. So thank you so much for doing that for us today and doing that for so many people, of course, as well. And I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.

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16:25 – Outro

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00:00 - Intro

Are you ready to hear business stories and learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and level up your business from awesome CEOs, entrepreneurs, and founders without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresh values your time and is ready to share with you the valuable info you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO podcast. 

00:25 - Rogers Healy

Hello. Hello. Hello. Keep it moving. That's it. You know, life is not short. Life is really freaking long and you got to keep it moving. And I think that having perspective is something that you're either born with wisdom or you have to earn it. And unfortunately, myself and people like me had to earn my wisdom through, you know, getting myself burned a lot. But if you keep it moving and you can feel things as they come at you, then life becomes a different kind of enjoyable.

00:54 - Gresham Harkless

This is Gretchen from the I AM CEO podcast. I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Rogers Healy of the Rogers Healy Companies. Rogers, It's great to have you on the show.

01:01 - Rogers Healy

Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

01:03 - Gresham Harkless

Yes, I'm super excited to have you on as well too. And what I wanted to do is just read a little bit more about Rogers so you can hear about all the awesome things that he was doing. And Rogers was born to build, market, and sell. Rogers is the CEO and owner of the Rogers Healey's companies, a brand that started in the real estate sector and has grown into a handful of successful other divisions under the Rogers Healey name.

Rogers Healey's real estate career launched in 2001 while he was an undergrad at Southern Methodist University Rogers founded Rogers Healey and Associates Real Estate in 2006 and turned it into one of the most successful, independently owned real estate firms in the country. Outside of the office, Roger surrounds himself with his wife, their dogs, and music of course. And he's also been a previous contributor to our CEO, Blog Nation. So super excited to have you on, Rogers. Are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?

01:47 - Rogers Healy

I'm ready, man. That was a great intro. So thank you very much and excited to chat.

01:52 - Gresham Harkless

Yes, absolutely excited to have you on. So what I wanted to do to kind of kick everything off, what was it, we're 01:00 a little bit. I know you, I touched on a little bit when I read your bio here a little bit more on how you got started, what I call your CEO story.

02:02 - Rogers Healy

Yeah, I think that, you know, everyone's got their own kind of path to relative success and mine's a little bit unique where real estate is never what I wanted to do. And I still don't feel like real estate is my passion. And I find a way to leverage that in a healthy way. But long story short, my story grew up just kind of a perpetual failure in a respectful way where I tried a lot of things that didn't work out in large part because I didn't know how to actually work hard.

And, had a lot of stuff as a child that interested me, but never really went all in other than the music stuff. I've always been a collector of memorabilia, which is probably another conversation, and long story short, and college, just got motivated for the first time really ever and wanted to go and redefine myself and find significance and work and you know I was the funny fat kid growing up and wanted to become the funny in shape guy that maybe had some leadership opportunities.

And so very long story short, I went to undergrad at Southern Methodist University here in Dallas. And a lot of the student body is not from the area, whether they're local or from, you know, suburbs. And I knew the area because I grew up down the street. And so when it came time to go and move, I was kind of the sherpa and would just go and help people just because it was something that was fun for me. And then I realized I could get paid. Long story short, I went and got my real estate license, and took it more than anybody in the history of Texas.

I took the test 22 times, which is one of those records that you can't wait to get broken, but it's been kind of part of my testimony. And just fell in love with what the business stood for and the relationship part. And then I learned that the business is also full of people that are just working for the money. And so I had to have kind of multiple come to Jesus meetings, with Jesus and with myself where I just had a calling randomly, which is a whole long story short.

I was with my old roommate who was a professional athlete and was just kind of lost, wasn't proud of where I was working, wasn't really proud of what I was doing, and just kind of had leadership qualities that were not getting honed in on and he just said, why don't you start a real estate company? I was like, okay, and that's literally the origin of it. And so started it started to grind differently, started to have a different kind of purpose.

And like you said, I mean, we've grown it to something that is really cool. And we're really proud. But it's a mission at this point. And you know, I think when you take a turn in your career and you don't work for the money or the fame or the recognition and you do it because you really wanna go and change lives, it sounds cliche and cheesy, but it just takes on a different meaning. And for us, that's what we do.

And I think that for me to be a CEO, obviously it means being a leader, but it also means being a servant leader, but it also means helping people find their leadership qualities. And a lot of them maybe didn't think they had it in them. And that's what's added to our growth these last couple of years. And it's just kind of mutated into something powerful, but in a different way.

05:09 - Gresham Harkless

Nice. Well, I definitely appreciate you telling that story and the words that kind of stuck out to me, purpose, mission, motivation, all those things that you kind of had that kind of sounds like became your North Star to kind of drive you and everything that you're doing. And I appreciate this story so much because I think so many times we hear and see people's success, but we don't hear that journey.

We don't hear kind of like the maybe less than ideal times and how that transition and maybe even built that foundation into what motivates them, what becomes their purpose in their mission. So I love that you talked about that and it kind of sounds like that has planted the seeds for all the awesome things you're doing now.

05:41 - Rogers Healy

Yeah, man, you have to stay humble. And I think that as a man of faith, I'm kind of past the point of being like, well, this had to happen to me. It's like, I don't want to deal with that kind of stuff anymore, so I have to just avoid just getting sucked into the vortex of success. And I think what attracts people to this company is that I'm relatively successful and I don't let it dictate my life.

Obviously, I'm sitting in front of a wall of awards, but yeah, I think just keeping it real, helps people from getting ruined. And I hate to say it like that, but real estate, I don't come from a wealthy family, and most people in real estate don't. And then when you start making money and you get access, it'll make or break you. And I want people to stay on the straight and narrow.

06:32 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, that makes so much sense. And I feel like to me, it sounds a lot of, related to character. And a lot of times when you're talking about somebody's character, you just, you really find that out during the least, you know, the least ideal times when things are kind of going quote unquote bad, but also the best times when you have everything in the world and you're killing it, you start to really understand somebody's character.

And I think so many times we can get attached to like what we do in the kind of the benefits of the success that we're having the success we're not having that becomes our identity, but to be able to kind of understand this is who I am. Like you mentioned, man of faith and all of those things, building the foundation of who you are, the essence of who you are.

I think you can really kind of, you know, be that that calm flow, you know, throughout everything that's happening in the world. And so I know you touched a little bit upon, you know, the companies and everything you're doing and building. Can you take us through a little bit more about that Robert Healy company what you're doing, and how you're serving the clients you work with?

07:20 - Rogers Healy

Yeah, so the Rogers Healy companies consist of Rogers Healy and Associates Real Estate, which is predominantly residential. We have Rogers Healy and Associates Commercial Real Estate. We have Healy Global Real Estate Relocation, and we have Healy Property Management. So it's essentially any service-based real estate item we do under our roof here.

We do it all over the world. And we've got right around 450 employees that, you know, like some of them are here all the time some of them we see the Christmas party some of them we don't ever see. But yeah, it's all just the very old-school basic real estate positions and we just put a twist on it, and our recruiting model is unique where we really don't historically recruit top producers.

We recruit people who have never done real estate or are about to quit real estate. And I think by doing that, you keep the environment full of humility and kindness and relief versus entitlement and drama. And so I think to do that in a fairly dramatic industry has been a pretty cool accomplishment in itself. But yeah, it's any real estate, any moving, anywhere in the world. And our biggest footprint is here in North Texas.

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08:33 - Gresham Harkless

Nice. I love that. When you were saying your recruitment model, and how you attract people, it reminded me of this quote, it's always darkest before dawn. I think so many times we forget that when things aren't going well, a lot of times there's a lot of opportunity there. And sometimes like you mentioned the word humility and understanding that you can maybe do things differently.

Sometimes when you're in that period, that's when you can make the most change and impact to propel yourself in a different way. And I don't know if you consider that to be like what I like to call your secret sauce, the thing you feel kind of sets you or the organization part of makes it unique, but is it that recruitment model? And it sounds like that's a strong underpinning within the foundation that kind of sets you apart.

09:05 - Rogers Healy

Yeah, and look, we always want to meet with people who could add value here, but I saw the movie Moneyball when it came out and it changed my entire perspective. And I took an approach where, you know, like I wasn't a good athlete growing up, but if I was decently good and I could have played college, I would have rather and I was saying I was good at basketball. I would rather go be a starter at a second-tier school than ride the bench at UNC or at Duke. And I think that that's the model here.

Also from a recruiting perspective, our best recruiters are our agents. And if you go and bring somebody the ability to go and find there, you know, their star potential, then their loyalty and they become family as opposed to just divas and neediness and just, it's just, you know, all that crap. But yeah, I think that is kind of our secret sauce, but we also train the crap out of our agents and we have marketing and we have great office space and we have great leadership.

So, you know, for the first like 8 or 9 years, the company, the secret sauce was it's fun, right? It's like I'm young and I'm single and I'm energetic and I'm going to be available to help you. And then it just becomes exhausting. And so we had to go implement the things that we had never done. And when you couple all that together, it just creates a different kind of monster that someone can't just go and buy. And we're just, we're really proud of it.

10:23 - Gresham Harkless

Absolutely. So I wanted to switch gears a little bit and I want to ask you for what I call a CEO hack. So this could be like an app, a book, or a habit that you have. But what's something you feel makes you more effective and efficient?

10:36 - Rogers Healy

You know, there's a lot of advice that people can give you. And I think that some great advice is to surround yourself with people who are smarter than you. But for me, I have to I have to trick myself. So I have to always be I have to have my next distraction. And I think that in the world that I live in, every single day, it could be a letdown or it could be a game changer. And to have something that you're looking forward to next just keeps me humble and it also gives me perspective. And so I'm not some kind of guru, I'm not a reader.

I like to my news is going to be, you know, on Twitter on social media, maybe on TV or the newspaper, but I move like this. And so for me it's music, and to be able to have, you know, almost everything that I do in life I have music playing and it's normally to the beat of what I need to be doing appropriately. And I think by doing that, you know, music is powerful and it gives people a different feeling, but I think it just keeps you in a place that is healthy.

And for me, every opportunity I have to talk about the power of music, I use it because I think that it could, it could literally save somebody's life, but also I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's something that I just take a different kind of seriously. And it's been The coolest gift for me other than being a Christian is introducing people to the power of music and I can't sing I can't dance. I'm not an artist but I know that's part of my mission in life, and to do that that's my life hack is to find a way to go and know that if I'm having a day that I need to go and just feel good, I can go put on some Stevie Wonder.

If I'm having a day I need to go and think deeply, I can put on you know whatever it is and that's been a way for me to trick myself where it gives me that childlike approach to life where if I sit and let my brain perpetuate into the dirtiness of some people, then I turn angry. But, you know, it's a simple little thing that I can do. And it makes me feel good.

12:27 - Gresham Harkless

I love that hack. And so I wanted to ask you now for what I call CEO nugget. So this could be a word of wisdom or a piece of advice. It might be something you would tell a client or if you happen to be a time machine, you might tell your younger business self.

12:40 - Rogers Healy

A little nugget. Keep it moving. That's it. You know, life is not short. Life is really freaking long. And you got to keep it moving and I think that having perspective is something that you're either born with wisdom or you have to earn it and unfortunately people like me had to earn my wisdom through you know getting myself burned a lot but if you keep it moving and you can feel things as they come at you, then life becomes a different kind of enjoyable, which I think compartmentalization is the devil's playground. And I think that when life happens, embrace it, enjoy it, and then keep moving. And I think if you take that approach, and you move at a quick pace while processing, then you have opportunities that you probably never thought would have come about.

13:24 - Gresham Harkless

And so now I want to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. We're hoping to have different quote-unquote CEOs on the show. So Rogers, what does being a CEO mean to you?

13:34 - Rogers Healy

I think everybody wants to be led and I think everybody wants to be a leader. And I think being a CEO is finding a way to pull out the greatest leadership qualities from everybody, no matter what. And there's a quote by Picasso, not a big art guy, but I like Picasso. And the quote simply says, the 2 most important days of your life are the day that you were born and the day that you find out why.

And for me, my why is going and bringing confidence to people that are in my life, whether they work for me or they are my friend or maybe they're not my friend. And I think being a CEO is not about entitlement and living on an island. It's about including and walking alongside others and introducing them to ways to think, which could lead to them going and impacting someone else. And I think that the purpose of life is giving people love and faith and leading them well, which in turn has them lead you as well.

14:31 - Gresham Harkless

Yeah, that's what's so powerful. I love that definition and perspective. And I think so many times we forget, we think our gifts are something that should be, you know, for it and protected and, you know, not shared with anybody. But I love that aspect and how you, you know, you talk about like, this is what you understand your purpose is, and your purpose is to empower those other people.

And you hear it, you know, and how you have been able to build and create the culture within, you know, your companies, but I think it's something that we often will forget that the opportunity that we have is not to be held, or, you know, not shared with others is really to make that impact in other people's lives and it creates that ripple effect in so many ways. 

15:05 - Rogers Healy

So, have a great question.

15:06 - Gresham Harkless

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Well, Roger, truly appreciate you for hopping in. I appreciate your time even more. What I wanted to do is pass you the mic, so to speak, just to see if there's anything additional that you can let our readers and listeners know. And of course, how best they can get ahold of you and find out about all the awesome things you and your team are working on.

15:20 - Rogers Healy

You can get ahold of us on the Internet. So, yeah, no, we're on, we're on social media. My first name, R0GERS last name's Healy. And we've got some fun accounts on Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook, et cetera. But yeah, this is awesome. And I think that this is what life is all about. And I've done this for 21 years. And I literally work as much as I did on day one.

And it's because I love what I do. And if you're watching this, if you're listening to this, and you're questioning yourself, and you already know the answer, I've never once questioned what I should be doing, and as I said at the beginning real estate is simply the vehicle that I use to go and change my version of the world.

15:59 - Gresham Harkless

Absolutely love that So we will definitely have the links and information in the show notes. It kind of reminds me of a quote, whether you think you can't, or you think you can't, you're right. So remembering that we do have the tools and everything within us and just kind of flipping that switch and understanding, we do have everything that we need and to kind of hear that motivation and be around the people as well too, that aspire us to do that and give us that purpose and that motivation and that awareness is so huge. So thank you so much for doing that for us today and doing that for so many people, of course, as well. And I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.

16:25 - Outro

Thank you for listening to the I AM CEO Podcast powered by Blue 16 Media. Tune in next time and visit us at iamceo.co I AM CEO is not just a phrase, it's a community. Be sure to follow us on social media and subscribe to our podcast on iTunes Google Play and everywhere you listen to podcasts, SUBSCRIBE, and leave us a five-star rating grab CEO gear at www.ceogear.co. This has been the I AM CEO Podcast with Gresham Harkless. Thank you for listening.

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