IAM1508 – Coach Shares the Happiness of Being Healthy and Fit
Special Throwback Episode Podcast Interview with Marcus Watts
Former Professional basketball player (6'8″ 240″) turned Sustainable Health & Fitness coach (I'm also vegan and have been for some time now) I ended my pro career in 2011 and opened my first gym in 2013 and onto my second gym in 2016. Lots of highs and lows. From a massively growing gym and community to losing my vehicle & going days without eating. My passion is sharing the happiness that being healthy and fit can bring to anyone on any journey. Currently, I've transitioned to mainly online systems allowing me to reach and support even more people.
- CEO Story: Marcus’ long-term goal while he was still in his Senior year was to create a community center that is focused on the youth linking athletics and academics. Now he is working on what he is passionate about and connecting with people and helping them with their health and fitness needs.
- Business Service: Online coaching. Helping clients identify their problems, and what they are struggling with. Then they will be given a fitness program for their need.
- Secret Sauce: Human connection – the most powerful resource at your disposal.
- CEO Hack: Raving Fans, Onlinejobs.ph, ContentSumo, Canva
- CEO Nugget: Done is better than perfect
- CEO Defined: Accepting that you have a vision
Website: thewattsguyfitness.com
Facebook: thewattsguyfitness
Instagram: thewattsguy
Twitter: thewattsguy
Additional links: Fat Loss Master Class – www.4weekburnzone.com
Plant-based health – thevegantransition.com
Episode Link: https://iamceo.co/2018/12/03/iam120-sustainable-health-and-fitness-coach-shares-the-happiness-of-being-healthy-and-fit/
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00:27 – Intro
Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkness values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO podcast.
00:52 – Gresham Harkless
Hello. Hello. Hello. This is Gresh from the I AM CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Marcus Watts. Marcus Watts of the Watts Guy Fitness. Marcus, it's awesome to have you on the show.
01:02 – Marcus Watts
Thank you so much for having me, man. I'm really excited and honored to be here to share. And you're welcome.
01:06 – Gresham Harkless
Yeah, well, super excited to have you on the show. And what I want to do is just read a little bit more about Marcus so you can hear about all the awesome things that he's doing. Marcus Watts is a former professional basketball player. He stands at 6'8″, and 240 pounds, and he turned sustainable health and fitness coach. He is also vegan and has been for some time. He ended his pro career in 2011 and opened his first gym in 2013 and his second gym in 2016. There were lots of highs and lows, including a massive growing gym and community to losing his vehicle and going days without eating. His passion is sharing the happiness that being healthy and fit can bring to anyone on any journey. Currently, he's transitioning to mainly online systems, allowing him to reach and support even more people. Marcus, are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?
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01:53 – Marcus Watts
Yes, I am. I'm so excited, man.
01:55 – Gresham Harkless
Awesome, let's do it. So the first question I had was just to hear a little bit more about your CEO story and what led you to start your business.
02:01 – Marcus Watts
Yeah, you know, I have to say that since I was younger and just kind of trying to figure out what it is that I want to do, I remember being in high school as a senior at Senior Day. And you know, they're saying the bios and they're saying, you know, all the things you plan on doing. My goal was, and still is a long-term goal to create a community center that's focused on the youth around linking athletics and academics.
02:24 – Gresham Harkless
I wanted to drill down a little bit deeper and hear exactly how you serve the clients that you work with. Tell me a little bit more about what you guys do.
02:30 – Marcus Watts
Yeah, so with the Watch Guy Fitness, with TWG Fitness now, I've moved primarily online and I'm really not involved in the day-to-day operations with the businesses, it's the more back end and it's because we put the right people in the right places. When you have a business scalability, it's not you being there to do everything. It's you having the right people and the right leadership and finding the right standard operating procedures. I can reach a lot more people online. You know, I mean, you know, I've got a really big following, you know, it's growing online and people that don't live around me, I can help them.
So now what we do is pretty much help to identify what your current problems are. What are the things that you are struggling to do? And can you be, first can you even be honest with those things? Then we're gonna try to fit you into a program that is best for you. And that goes from busy mom, dad, entrepreneur, who only has 20 minutes or 15 minutes or even less than that sometimes, but understand that in order for them to be, the best business that I've done has been when my body's been performing at its best, literally, the idea is everything.
o, you know, how can you put yourself in that position? But it's coupling training with nutrition. I do offer them separate, but I explain to people that you need both worlds, whatever level you're starting out, you need both worlds. And I have programs that range from $67 to, you know, $2, 900 packages.
03:48 – Gresham Harkless
Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Great that you have like all kind of all those places, pieces in place so that depending on whatever and wherever somebody is as far as their fitness goals and what their goals are as a whole and where they are and how they're performing, they're able to kind of find a package that kind of fits them. And it's customized based on what it is that they're looking for. So now I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce. And this could basically be something that you feel kind of distinguishes you or sets you apart, but do you have an example of a secret sauce for us?
04:14 -Marcus Watts
I would say, and I tell this to all the interns and people that would come from, that wanted to be inside the industry, that would come to my gyms and work with me. And the human connection. The human connection is the most powerful resource at your disposal. And it costs absolutely nothing for you to be kind, for you to be honest, for you to be genuine, and for you to put that effort into holding conversations with people. I guess that's probably the best way to put it. But I've kind of learned to really try to connect with people, so I'm putting out dope, quality, in-depth content to grab you and connect with you and give to you as much as I can.
And that human connection, whether people hit that buy button now or they hit that buy button in 2 years sometimes, it doesn't really, I got people now that have been following me for, I don't know, man, 8 years. And now I hate the buy button, you know? And it's because they trust me. They need to trust you. They need to know that it's not just about a dollar. Hey, listen, I need to support myself. I cannot do this for people if I'm not able to do that, which is at the time that we spoke about before when I didn't have money and I was not eating for days at a time.
And when I was sometimes eating gummy bears, I didn't understand that. So I wanna serve. In order to serve, I need to be able to support myself and live comfortably so I can be creative and do all those things. And all of that starts with me giving that human connection.
05:36 – Gresham Harkless
Yeah, I definitely think that's a great example of a secret sauce. I wanted to switch gears a little bit and ask you for what I call a CEO hack. This could be an app, a book, or a habit that you have, but do you have an example of something that makes you more effective and efficient?
05:50 – Marcus Watts
Oh, okay, I'll give a couple. Number 1 is, let's go over some books. Raving Fans, if you haven't read Raving Fans, you need to read Raving Fans. This is a very short read, it's one of those one-dump reads. But it's about customer service and true customer service. And too many times people are doing the bare minimum and they're not going that extra 1%. And then the other I would say is Seth Godin's Tribes. And I mean, just I continuously read, I probably bought it like 10 times. Someone, literally every time I buy like 3 copies, or I give it to my team members too, every time I buy like 3 copies, literally, someone would walk up to me at my gym and I would be standing at the desk with the book in my hand and I would be like, here, just take this.
And then it would be like, really? And I'd be like, yeah, hey, read it, highlight all the notes in it, do not keep this book, give this book to someone else, and then go buy 2 more copies. Cause I really think that that book had that type of influence on me. As far as applications and hacks, There's a ton I could go into and honestly, if you want, we can make a separate downloadable just about this because I was going through the list the other day and there are so many apps that I use and when I mean so many, it's I've tested 12 times that, no joke. But for different avenues of business, you're going to need, I've got different apps for you. So number 1 is overall outsourcing. Like, stop trying to do everything yourself.
Stop trying to fall into this feed that they taught us in college where you need to do accounting and financing. No, I don't. I'm a creative. I'm going to create. You know, if I'm the math person, then I'm going to do the math, you know, outsourcing. So the website that I use is onlinejobs. ph. Now I have 2 virtual assistants. I'm not going to say what I pay them on here, but It works very, very good for me. It's pennies on the dollar. And in their country, it's actually very, very good pay. And they work for a handful of people at a time. Online jobs. ph is phenomenal. I have no complaints. The people I've found have been fantastic. I actually offer a service where myself and my assistant will help you find assistance. And if there was another app,
I would say Iconosquare, but it's starting to be a little bit up in the air because they just sent a message out the other day that I'm not sure by the time that this is out, that may be fixed, but they're currently experiencing problems auto posting to Instagram, which is a problem for me because I do not have time for that. There are a couple of other ones, but the technology is always changeable. Iconosquare is going to let you auto-post to Facebook pages, and auto-post to Instagram pages, and any app that you can find will do that for you is massive because now like Friday's a creative day for me, I'll go and create a blog I'll go and create Instagram I'll go and create and I'll schedule them to post so I can be free to interact.
There was one more that I wanted to share with you. Oh creation If you want to create beautiful content, Canva is a really good app. Now, PicMonkey is also a great one for creating graphics, but I like the way that Canva lays out where it's like Instagram posts, ads, pins, YouTube thumbnails, and all that. You need to create beautiful content and you need a place to do it that simplifies it, that gives you templates and you don't have to be Einstein in order to do it. Canva is on your phone. I love to create more on the computer because it's like 5 times as fast. But having it on my phone, I just made a thumbnail for a video, boom, I posted it. And there's one last one, and this is like a super, super hack, Content Sumo. I don't know, have you used Content Sumo before?
09:10 – Gresham Harkless
I haven't, I have not.
09:11 – Marcus Watts
Okay, Content Sumo lets You take a script, so take your blogs, upload it into a system, and then this tech is dope. It automatically recognizes keywords and brings up photos to match and make slides. Then you can, Then I record my audio over. So I go over, and I change some of the words. If I don't like the picture, I can use another keyword and find a picture of someone doing pull-ups or push-ups or marketing or blog. It's gonna bring stuff up. And then I record it and it creates it.
And it makes beautiful layouts for social or when I say social, I'm talking Instagram and Facebook. I refer to YouTube as YouTube because YouTube's videos need to be different. If you're on Facebook, you need to be in portrait. If you're on YouTube, you need to be in the landscape. And I mean, as far as creating content for people is out of this world. For either yourself or for your clients. You can make beautiful videos. So that's actually a new 1 that I just found, but I would say those, those 2 books and those apps.
10:09 – Gresham Harkless
And now I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO nugget. And this is a word of wisdom or a piece of advice, or if you could hop into a time machine, what would you tell your younger business self?
10:18 – Marcus Watts
If I could hop into a time machine and tell my younger self something, I would say that done is better than perfect. You don't need to have a logo. You don't need to have a slogan. All those people that told us that stuff, you need to have a mission statement. You need to work. None of them are millionaires.
For real. Like, none of them are millionaires. So why am I listening to what you say? Like, what you need to have is an idea and a willingness to put in the work to get, and listen, the short distance between 2 points is a straight line. I don't need to be doing all this. So who can you hire and how can you raise the money to hire them? It doesn't matter what you have to do. Like there are some programs that I want, they cost about $3, 000. So I'm trying to get somebody to actually pay for it. And then I'm telling them that I'm going to create content for them until their money is made back. And if it's not made back in a year, I'll just pay them their money back. But be resourceful, man. Don't let copywriting and all this stuff, don't let that stuff get in the way. You don't like writing blogs? Don't. Go on Fiverr and find somebody, I got somebody right now who'll write 25 blogs for $256. Outsource it.
Don't let the procrastination hold you back from being excellent because done is better than perfect. People will be like, oh, they'll comment on my emails. Oh, that was misspelled, or hey, I saw this. I'm like, hey, I'm glad that you have the time. Just didn't do that. Thank you for the feedback. Number 1, legit, don't be asked. Thank you for the feedback. I will go back and make those changes, but I am proud that I did the work. And now I have something to build off of and improve. People, You know what people love more than something that's perfect? I found this out in the gym business when I started my gym, you don't have a ton of equipment, it's not the most beautiful gym.
People like seeing progress. They like feeling a part of your progress. 2.0. When you relaunch a program, give it for free to the people who did the first version get their feedback win them on your side, and let people see the life. Like when people follow me, that's one of the things that they say, people have been following for a while. Man, I see the change. I see the growth. It's so awesome. People like to see that. So yeah, man, done is better than perfect. I wasted so many years, I think because I didn't feel adequate enough in what I was putting out. I didn't want to be judged. I didn't want people to say I was a fraud. Man, I don't care. I really just don't care. I'm gonna work to create something and I'm just gonna keep on making it better.
12:54 – Gresham Harkless
Now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. We're hoping to have different quote-unquote CEOs on the show. So what does being a CEO mean to you?
13:03 – Marcus Watts
It doesn't mean having an LLC and it doesn't mean having a website. I'll tell you that it means being able to accept the fact that you have a vision and then scale yourself back and be able to say, I don't really know how to do this stuff. You have you, listen, I know basketball, I know the track, but being able to say that I don't really, who can I surround myself with? And in what ways can I grow? I think that's what a real CEO is because you have to be able to adapt and mold. Facebook is changing, YouTube is changing, Instagram is changing.
I mean, platforms are changing, tech is changing, the market is, You can't just be this person that says, well, I'm a CEO and I do, no. You're gonna have to be someone that's malleable and that can be formed to inform others because I think that's something that maybe if there's something else to touch on later or people to keep in mind is that you're only as strong as the team that you have around you. I mean, my assistants are everything to me. So yeah, I would say that, man.
14:06 – Gresham Harkless
Yeah, I love that. And that's a great reminder. I heard something a long time ago that said that the true sign of strength, it used to be like the rock because it was hard, But then I heard that it changed recently to water because it's malleable. Just like you said, we're thinking kind of, you know, go throughout any divots or can surround stuff if needed, if need be. But it's very kind of malleable like you mentioned. So I think that's a phenomenal definition. And Marcus, I truly appreciate you taking some time out. What I wanted to do was pass you the mic just to see if there's anything additional you want to let our readers and our listeners know and then how best people can get a hold of you.
14:38 – Marcus Watts
Yeah, no, I actually just wrote those down. So thanks. So a couple of things first. If you guys want to check me out on Instagram, I'm the Watts guy on Facebook. You can search the same thing, the Watts guy or the Watts guy fitness. I have a private fitness page on Facebook. That's destination fit. But if you hit me up or just ask me, I'll send you the link. And then I'm vegan. That's my thing. Animal Rights Social Club. So I have like a vegan private plant-based support group for people who want to learn about not vegans, it's for people who want to learn about how plants can do more for them in their lives and their health and wellness.
That's called the vegan transition. So you can look that up on Facebook. There's a private group as well. Now for your audience, we've created a program, a 14 day free, this is a free program, it's 14 days. And over the 14 days, what it is, is we're going to teach you how to number 1, interact with your audience, right? How to get meaningful engagement. And if you have engagement, how to increase it or learn to continue to duplicate that? And then we're going to also talk about how to, with that focus of interacting with your audience better, turn those into leads and then turn those leads into people that are going to click the buy button. So we'll have that as an opt-in. You guys can get that.
That'll be daily emails for 14 days. There will be blogs with each one of those. There will be actionable steps for you to take with that as well. And Yeah, we'll do that and we'll try to help as many people as we can.
16:03 – Gresham Harkless
Well, also now I truly appreciate that and I appreciate the time that you took and we'll have those links in the show notes just so that anybody can follow up and take action, which is as we talked about the most important thing. So Marcus, I truly appreciate you. I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.
16:16 – Marcus Watts
Thanks, man, likewise you as well.
16:18 – Outro
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00:27 - Intro
Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales, and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkness values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO podcast.
00:52 - Gresham Harkless
Hello. Hello. Hello. This is Gresh from the I AM CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today. I have Marcus Watts. Marcus Watts of the Watts Guy Fitness. Marcus, it's awesome to have you on the show.
01:02 - Marcus Watts
Thank you so much for having me, man. I'm really excited and honored to be here to share. And you're welcome.
01:06 - Gresham Harkless
Yeah, well, super excited to have you on the show. And what I want to do is just read a little bit more about Marcus so you can hear about all the awesome things that he's doing. Marcus Watts is a former professional basketball player. He stands at 6'8", and 240 pounds, and he turned sustainable health and fitness coach. He is also vegan and has been for some time. He ended his pro career in 2011 and opened his first gym in 2013 and his second gym in 2016. There were lots of highs and lows, including a massive growing gym and community to losing his vehicle and going days without eating. His passion is sharing the happiness that being healthy and fit can bring to anyone on any journey. Currently, he's transitioning to mainly online systems, allowing him to reach and support even more people. Marcus, are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?
01:53 - Marcus Watts
Yes, I am. I'm so excited, man.
01:55 - Gresham Harkless
Awesome, let's do it. So the first question I had was just to hear a little bit more about your CEO story and what led you to start your business.
02:01 - Marcus Watts
Yeah, you know, I have to say that since I was younger and just kind of trying to figure out what it is that I want to do, I remember being in high school as a senior at Senior Day. And you know, they're saying the bios and they're saying, you know, all the things you plan on doing. My goal was, and still is a long-term goal to create a community center that's focused on the youth around linking athletics and academics.
02:24 - Gresham Harkless
I wanted to drill down a little bit deeper and hear exactly how you serve the clients that you work with. Tell me a little bit more about what you guys do.
02:30 - Marcus Watts
Yeah, so with the Watch Guy Fitness, with TWG Fitness now, I've moved primarily online and I'm really not involved in the day-to-day operations with the businesses, it's the more back end and it's because we put the right people in the right places. When you have a business scalability, it's not you being there to do everything. It's you having the right people and the right leadership and finding the right standard operating procedures. I can reach a lot more people online. You know, I mean, you know, I've got a really big following, you know, it's growing online and people that don't live around me, I can help them.
So now what we do is pretty much help to identify what your current problems are. What are the things that you are struggling to do? And can you be, first can you even be honest with those things? Then we're gonna try to fit you into a program that is best for you. And that goes from busy mom, dad, entrepreneur, who only has 20 minutes or 15 minutes or even less than that sometimes, but understand that in order for them to be, the best business that I've done has been when my body's been performing at its best, literally, the idea is everything.
o, you know, how can you put yourself in that position? But it's coupling training with nutrition. I do offer them separate, but I explain to people that you need both worlds, whatever level you're starting out, you need both worlds. And I have programs that range from $67 to, you know, $2, 900 packages.
03:48 - Gresham Harkless
Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Great that you have like all kind of all those places, pieces in place so that depending on whatever and wherever somebody is as far as their fitness goals and what their goals are as a whole and where they are and how they're performing, they're able to kind of find a package that kind of fits them. And it's customized based on what it is that they're looking for. So now I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce. And this could basically be something that you feel kind of distinguishes you or sets you apart, but do you have an example of a secret sauce for us?
04:14 -Marcus Watts
I would say, and I tell this to all the interns and people that would come from, that wanted to be inside the industry, that would come to my gyms and work with me. And the human connection. The human connection is the most powerful resource at your disposal. And it costs absolutely nothing for you to be kind, for you to be honest, for you to be genuine, and for you to put that effort into holding conversations with people. I guess that's probably the best way to put it. But I've kind of learned to really try to connect with people, so I'm putting out dope, quality, in-depth content to grab you and connect with you and give to you as much as I can.
And that human connection, whether people hit that buy button now or they hit that buy button in 2 years sometimes, it doesn't really, I got people now that have been following me for, I don't know, man, 8 years. And now I hate the buy button, you know? And it's because they trust me. They need to trust you. They need to know that it's not just about a dollar. Hey, listen, I need to support myself. I cannot do this for people if I'm not able to do that, which is at the time that we spoke about before when I didn't have money and I was not eating for days at a time.
And when I was sometimes eating gummy bears, I didn't understand that. So I wanna serve. In order to serve, I need to be able to support myself and live comfortably so I can be creative and do all those things. And all of that starts with me giving that human connection.
05:36 - Gresham Harkless
Yeah, I definitely think that's a great example of a secret sauce. I wanted to switch gears a little bit and ask you for what I call a CEO hack. This could be an app, a book, or a habit that you have, but do you have an example of something that makes you more effective and efficient?
05:50 - Marcus Watts
Oh, okay, I'll give a couple. Number 1 is, let's go over some books. Raving Fans, if you haven't read Raving Fans, you need to read Raving Fans. This is a very short read, it's one of those one-dump reads. But it's about customer service and true customer service. And too many times people are doing the bare minimum and they're not going that extra 1%. And then the other I would say is Seth Godin's Tribes. And I mean, just I continuously read, I probably bought it like 10 times. Someone, literally every time I buy like 3 copies, or I give it to my team members too, every time I buy like 3 copies, literally, someone would walk up to me at my gym and I would be standing at the desk with the book in my hand and I would be like, here, just take this.
And then it would be like, really? And I'd be like, yeah, hey, read it, highlight all the notes in it, do not keep this book, give this book to someone else, and then go buy 2 more copies. Cause I really think that that book had that type of influence on me. As far as applications and hacks, There's a ton I could go into and honestly, if you want, we can make a separate downloadable just about this because I was going through the list the other day and there are so many apps that I use and when I mean so many, it's I've tested 12 times that, no joke. But for different avenues of business, you're going to need, I've got different apps for you. So number 1 is overall outsourcing. Like, stop trying to do everything yourself.
Stop trying to fall into this feed that they taught us in college where you need to do accounting and financing. No, I don't. I'm a creative. I'm going to create. You know, if I'm the math person, then I'm going to do the math, you know, outsourcing. So the website that I use is onlinejobs. ph. Now I have 2 virtual assistants. I'm not going to say what I pay them on here, but It works very, very good for me. It's pennies on the dollar. And in their country, it's actually very, very good pay. And they work for a handful of people at a time. Online jobs. ph is phenomenal. I have no complaints. The people I've found have been fantastic. I actually offer a service where myself and my assistant will help you find assistance. And if there was another app,
I would say Iconosquare, but it's starting to be a little bit up in the air because they just sent a message out the other day that I'm not sure by the time that this is out, that may be fixed, but they're currently experiencing problems auto posting to Instagram, which is a problem for me because I do not have time for that. There are a couple of other ones, but the technology is always changeable. Iconosquare is going to let you auto-post to Facebook pages, and auto-post to Instagram pages, and any app that you can find will do that for you is massive because now like Friday's a creative day for me, I'll go and create a blog I'll go and create Instagram I'll go and create and I'll schedule them to post so I can be free to interact.
There was one more that I wanted to share with you. Oh creation If you want to create beautiful content, Canva is a really good app. Now, PicMonkey is also a great one for creating graphics, but I like the way that Canva lays out where it's like Instagram posts, ads, pins, YouTube thumbnails, and all that. You need to create beautiful content and you need a place to do it that simplifies it, that gives you templates and you don't have to be Einstein in order to do it. Canva is on your phone. I love to create more on the computer because it's like 5 times as fast. But having it on my phone, I just made a thumbnail for a video, boom, I posted it. And there's one last one, and this is like a super, super hack, Content Sumo. I don't know, have you used Content Sumo before?
09:10 - Gresham Harkless
I haven't, I have not.
09:11 - Marcus Watts
Okay, Content Sumo lets You take a script, so take your blogs, upload it into a system, and then this tech is dope. It automatically recognizes keywords and brings up photos to match and make slides. Then you can, Then I record my audio over. So I go over, and I change some of the words. If I don't like the picture, I can use another keyword and find a picture of someone doing pull-ups or push-ups or marketing or blog. It's gonna bring stuff up. And then I record it and it creates it.
And it makes beautiful layouts for social or when I say social, I'm talking Instagram and Facebook. I refer to YouTube as YouTube because YouTube's videos need to be different. If you're on Facebook, you need to be in portrait. If you're on YouTube, you need to be in the landscape. And I mean, as far as creating content for people is out of this world. For either yourself or for your clients. You can make beautiful videos. So that's actually a new 1 that I just found, but I would say those, those 2 books and those apps.
10:09 - Gresham Harkless
And now I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO nugget. And this is a word of wisdom or a piece of advice, or if you could hop into a time machine, what would you tell your younger business self?
10:18 - Marcus Watts
If I could hop into a time machine and tell my younger self something, I would say that done is better than perfect. You don't need to have a logo. You don't need to have a slogan. All those people that told us that stuff, you need to have a mission statement. You need to work. None of them are millionaires.
For real. Like, none of them are millionaires. So why am I listening to what you say? Like, what you need to have is an idea and a willingness to put in the work to get, and listen, the short distance between 2 points is a straight line. I don't need to be doing all this. So who can you hire and how can you raise the money to hire them? It doesn't matter what you have to do. Like there are some programs that I want, they cost about $3, 000. So I'm trying to get somebody to actually pay for it. And then I'm telling them that I'm going to create content for them until their money is made back. And if it's not made back in a year, I'll just pay them their money back. But be resourceful, man. Don't let copywriting and all this stuff, don't let that stuff get in the way. You don't like writing blogs? Don't. Go on Fiverr and find somebody, I got somebody right now who'll write 25 blogs for $256. Outsource it.
Don't let the procrastination hold you back from being excellent because done is better than perfect. People will be like, oh, they'll comment on my emails. Oh, that was misspelled, or hey, I saw this. I'm like, hey, I'm glad that you have the time. Just didn't do that. Thank you for the feedback. Number 1, legit, don't be asked. Thank you for the feedback. I will go back and make those changes, but I am proud that I did the work. And now I have something to build off of and improve. People, You know what people love more than something that's perfect? I found this out in the gym business when I started my gym, you don't have a ton of equipment, it's not the most beautiful gym.
People like seeing progress. They like feeling a part of your progress. 2.0. When you relaunch a program, give it for free to the people who did the first version get their feedback win them on your side, and let people see the life. Like when people follow me, that's one of the things that they say, people have been following for a while. Man, I see the change. I see the growth. It's so awesome. People like to see that. So yeah, man, done is better than perfect. I wasted so many years, I think because I didn't feel adequate enough in what I was putting out. I didn't want to be judged. I didn't want people to say I was a fraud. Man, I don't care. I really just don't care. I'm gonna work to create something and I'm just gonna keep on making it better.
12:54 - Gresham Harkless
Now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO. We're hoping to have different quote-unquote CEOs on the show. So what does being a CEO mean to you?
13:03 - Marcus Watts
It doesn't mean having an LLC and it doesn't mean having a website. I'll tell you that it means being able to accept the fact that you have a vision and then scale yourself back and be able to say, I don't really know how to do this stuff. You have you, listen, I know basketball, I know the track, but being able to say that I don't really, who can I surround myself with? And in what ways can I grow? I think that's what a real CEO is because you have to be able to adapt and mold. Facebook is changing, YouTube is changing, Instagram is changing.
I mean, platforms are changing, tech is changing, the market is, You can't just be this person that says, well, I'm a CEO and I do, no. You're gonna have to be someone that's malleable and that can be formed to inform others because I think that's something that maybe if there's something else to touch on later or people to keep in mind is that you're only as strong as the team that you have around you. I mean, my assistants are everything to me. So yeah, I would say that, man.
14:06 - Gresham Harkless
Yeah, I love that. And that's a great reminder. I heard something a long time ago that said that the true sign of strength, it used to be like the rock because it was hard, But then I heard that it changed recently to water because it's malleable. Just like you said, we're thinking kind of, you know, go throughout any divots or can surround stuff if needed, if need be. But it's very kind of malleable like you mentioned. So I think that's a phenomenal definition. And Marcus, I truly appreciate you taking some time out. What I wanted to do was pass you the mic just to see if there's anything additional you want to let our readers and our listeners know and then how best people can get a hold of you.
14:38 - Marcus Watts
Yeah, no, I actually just wrote those down. So thanks. So a couple of things first. If you guys want to check me out on Instagram, I'm the Watts guy on Facebook. You can search the same thing, the Watts guy or the Watts guy fitness. I have a private fitness page on Facebook. That's destination fit. But if you hit me up or just ask me, I'll send you the link. And then I'm vegan. That's my thing. Animal Rights Social Club. So I have like a vegan private plant-based support group for people who want to learn about not vegans, it's for people who want to learn about how plants can do more for them in their lives and their health and wellness.
That's called the vegan transition. So you can look that up on Facebook. There's a private group as well. Now for your audience, we've created a program, a 14 day free, this is a free program, it's 14 days. And over the 14 days, what it is, is we're going to teach you how to number 1, interact with your audience, right? How to get meaningful engagement. And if you have engagement, how to increase it or learn to continue to duplicate that? And then we're going to also talk about how to, with that focus of interacting with your audience better, turn those into leads and then turn those leads into people that are going to click the buy button. So we'll have that as an opt-in. You guys can get that.
That'll be daily emails for 14 days. There will be blogs with each one of those. There will be actionable steps for you to take with that as well. And Yeah, we'll do that and we'll try to help as many people as we can.
16:03 - Gresham Harkless
Well, also now I truly appreciate that and I appreciate the time that you took and we'll have those links in the show notes just so that anybody can follow up and take action, which is as we talked about the most important thing. So Marcus, I truly appreciate you. I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.
16:16 - Marcus Watts
Thanks, man, likewise you as well.
16:18 - Outro
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