Michelle Eichner is the founder and CEO of Digitile. She works with businesses to reduce the challenges employees have finding files. Eichner is a seasoned marketer and SaaS software veteran with a deep understanding of the marketplace. Her more than 25 years of in-depth B2B experience driving product marketing and strategy helps identify market challenges, gaps, and solutions.
- CEO Hack: Notion, LinkedInHelper helping with LinkedIn Sales Navigator
- CEO Nugget: You need to be able to network. Also, find mentors that can help provide an outside perspective (e.g. Small Business Development Center)
- CEO Defined: Wearing a lot of hats and being flexible to play the different roles. Make good educational decisions.
Website: https://digitile.io/
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Intro 0:02
Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkless values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO Podcast.
Gresham Harkless 0:26
Hello, Hello, Hello, this is Gresham Harkless from the I am CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today as Michelle Eichner of Digitile. Michelle is awesome to have you on the show.
Michelle Eichner 0:36
Hey, thank you. Gresham. It's a pleasure to be with you.
Gresham Harkless 0:39
Awesome, awesome, awesome. Well, what I want to do is read a little bit more about Michelle so you can learn a little bit more about her and hear about all the awesome things that she's doing. Michelle is the founder and CEO of Digitile. She works with businesses to reduce the challenges employees have finding files. Eichner is a seasoned marketer and SaaS software veteran with a deep understanding of the marketplace. Her more than 25 years of in-depth B2B experience driving product marketing and strategy helps identify market challenges, gaps, and solutions. Michelle, are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?
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Michelle Eichner 1:12
Absolutely.
Gresham Harkless 1:14
Awesome. Let's do it. So first question I have is just to hear a little bit more about your CEO story. And what led you to start your business?
Michelle Eichner 1:20
Sure. So probably like many other CEOs, I had a pain point. So I was the head of marketing at a startup in New York, had about 10 people on my team and we create content for the internal stakeholders and external stakeholders, what I found is we would store things in Google Drive, we'd have some things in Dropbox, we had files living in Salesforce, we have files living in HubSpot all sorts of different places. And inevitably, someone would slack me or someone on my team or email us and say, Hey, where's the latest data sheet, where's the latest client presentation, and we would have to stop we'd be disrupted and we'd have to help them get to the link of the file.
And I figured at some point, there's got to be a method to the madness to help people find files faster and ultimately, I didn't find a lot out there. So, I set out to build something that could conveniently help you search across cloud platforms for your file, irrespective of where it resided in order to just quickly have a very sophisticated search engine that goes and finds what you need.
Gresham Harkless 2:24
Awesome. That's a genius idea. And as always, as any entrepreneur says, there has to be a better way and you found that better way. So I wanted to drill a little bit deeper and hear a little bit more about how your service works, how exactly it works, and what platforms it might work with, with Digitile.
Michelle Eichner 2:38
Sure, it's very simple, it actually takes about 30 seconds to set up your account with Digitile, we do a free trial. Once you do that, we then ask you to connect or sync your Google Drive your Dropbox, your Slack account, and your Gmail, those are things you authorize. Once you do that, then it's a two-way authentication, we'll walk through the APIs of these other companies. And from there, we never take possession of the file, we merely can search across these different platforms to then find the file you need.
So if you're looking for the latest case study that you might have done for your clients, and you type in something specific, we check, not just the title of that of the file, but we also have natural language processing that we'll go through and identify any the text related your search, we have image recognition, so if you have an image in there, and we've got image recognition and be able to identify files that have relevant images, so we built a sophisticated engine that just goes across these different platforms, and simply finds the files for you.
Gresham Harkless 3:36
Yeah, I love that. And like you said, where exactly is it? What's the latest file? And how exactly do I find access to it, to be able to sign into a platform that allows you to synchronize all those different software and services is pretty incredible,
Michelle Eichner 3:49
Right. Yeah, it is. So far, we had great response service.
Gresham Harkless 3:53
Awesome, awesome, awesome. And now I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce. And this is what differentiates you or makes you unique or your organization unique. So could you give us an example of your secret sauce?
Michelle Eichner 4:03
Yeah, so from a company perspective, each of these platforms has different behaviors and different elements, when you go search for a file in Dropbox, there are some nuances with that, that make finding a file hard. Their search engines actually not very robust. They don't check within the context of that file, whereas Google does, Salesforce does not HubSpot does not.
So some of these guys do something different and unique and then also how you search, and how you share files are unique by platform and you have to log in to all these platforms. We wanted to unify this experience so that even though each of these had its own nuances, you didn't have to worry about those. You could do it that one way and have a consistent experience across these. So a good example is sharing when you want to share a file.
Let's say you've got a new employee starting and you've got five different ten different documents that you want to give, some live in Google Drive, some might live in slack because you happen to slack to a channel. And if you don't want to log in to each of these platforms separately to go, here are the two files that are here, and here are the three files. So what we did is we made sharing possible across platforms, so you just literally say, here are the files, 10 files I want to share and I want to make the experience very simple, so that you're not logging in all these locations will go through the process of pulling from each of these locations, but you have to just go through this process once.
So we unify your experience across the whole, all these different platforms and that's part of the secret sauce. The other secret sauce is the search engine that makes finding files fast, it's seamless to you, but there's a big heavy-lifting algorithm on the back end that's doing all these processes to give you the pop file that is most relevant to what you're looking for.
Gresham Harkless 5:54
That makes perfect sense. And I think that's pretty awesome. Just because it's like you're able to tap into the secret sauces of all these different platforms and then you're able to make your own secret recipe or secret sauce based on that because you understand the strengths and weaknesses for all these different platforms. So I think that's a great idea and a great company that you're building.
So I want to switch gears a little bit and ask you for what I call a CEO hack the CEO hack could be an app like yourself, or it could be a book or something that you use or lean on on a regular everyday basis that makes you effective and efficient as a business owner.
Michelle Eichner 6:26
So I've got a couple of different things that we use, app-wise that we find helpful at Digitile for us, not a lot of people know about a project management tool called Notion. And I think of Notion as a mash-up of Trello, Asana, Slack, Evernote, I could probably go on even maybe a Gmail and of sorts and it's like the perfect tool that offers the most flexibility for you to manage your just everyday life at work even at home if you wanted, but nonetheless, and manage all the projects and all the tasks and have communications going back and forth. and it truly is a mash-up of about 10 different products in one.
So its flexibility just really helps the team come together focus and just understand exactly who's doing what, where things are in stages, and lets us easily communicate with one another as far as what we need to do or what the past off is or what have you.
So from a product or an application, I would say that's been a good hack. I wouldn't call that a hack, It's just a good valuable app. As far as hacks, interestingly enough, I think one of the hacks that I've come to appreciate is, we're a big business-to-business company, we'd sell to other businesses, and we use LinkedIn Sales Navigator quite a bit and LinkedIn has a tool called LinkedIn helper and LinkedIn helper allows you to download of all the profile information so you can start to really build a targeted list.
And then from there, there are other hacks that allow you to communicate an email with these people not through the mail. And so there are lots of little hacks that have helped us communicate targets and hone in on our potential customer audience.
Gresham Harkless 8:14
I love those two hacks and especially, LinkedIn and I haven't heard of the other one what was it called? One more time.
Michelle Eichner 8:19
So the app is called Notion.
Gresham Harkless 8:23
Notion. Yeah, I actually have not heard of that. So I would love to check that out. But again, being able to pull from the greatness of Evernote and all these other platforms and be able to mash it up, as you said into one is definitely a great CEO hack that we can definitely check out. So now I want to switch gears a little bit and ask you for what I call a CEO nugget. And this might be a word of wisdom or piece of advice or something you might tell your younger business self.
Michelle Eichner 8:45
Yeah. So when you become a CEO, You need to be able to network and depending on where you are in your career, you've built up probably a fairly large network of people that you've worked with and met over the years. And what I'm finding is if you've done a good job of building those relationships over time, networking when it counts, and when you really need to call upon people, whether it's just for advice, to brainstorm, to ask for opinions to ask for do you want to participate in a beta program?
Would you consider being a client whatever that ask is, is a lot easier when you've had relationships or you cemented relationships in a way that allows you to pick up the phone five years later, frankly, even 10 years later, and not skip a beat and not feel awkward about making that call, because it's tough sometimes to start calling on people you haven't spoken to in a long time.
So I think probably one of the most important things for me was just recognizing, I just did a good job of keeping in touch and cementing relationships where I felt comfortable, but then there were cases where I didn't and then there was like Okay, how do I break that ice and try to not make this such an awkward approach when I wanted to ask that individual for advice or get their thoughts with respect to market trends, or, frankly, join our beta. So, you get ideas, and you think that sales will just come, but there's a lot of hard work and building the business and networking that I think entrepreneurs probably underestimate.
Gresham Harkless 10:27
Yeah, absolutely. And, obviously helps out a ton. If you have relationships that you've already built to be able to pull on, as you said, sometimes you might even have a relationship, and it might not be in the same sphere as what you're asking about, or what you're doing. So still, there's some type of awkwardness or something, or it's a little bit different. So you have to be able to navigate that and there are a lot of other things you have to juggle as a CEO. So definitely, networking is a big part of that.
So, now I wanted to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is the definition of what it means to be a CEO, and we're having different CEOs on this podcast, but I wanted to ask you specifically, what being a CEO means to you.
Michelle Eichner 11:03
So to me, it's wearing a lot of hats and being flexible to play the different roles, especially when you're small, and you don't have a big set of resources to rely on. I think it's also around being able to make good educational decisions, I think everybody's gonna make mistakes. If you made the mistake based on foundational information that helped you make the decision, it is what it is.
But, I think you've got to be prepared to play every hat and recognize you may have strengths and certain weaknesses, you need to understand those strengths, certainly play on those strengths, where you have weaknesses, don't be afraid to outsource, don't be afraid to delegate and at the same time, recognize, how far you can take some of these weaknesses to overcome some of them too.
So there are things that we early on may have outsourced that over time, we realize we actually had skills that we could do if we just put a little time and effort into it. And now we do some of these things we used to outsource.
Conversely, there are probably things now that we recognize we don't want to spend and waste our time on there is an expert that can get us from point A to point B a lot quicker, and even though we're trying to be mindful of dollars, we sort of have to go is that dollar worth, is it worth my time at this point in where we are in the business, versus spending a few bucks that we may not have considered all these things, just play into the CEO, being flexible, making decisions, and honestly being really in tune with your business.
Gresham Harkless 12:36
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. And definitely understanding like where you are in your business, like you said, the dollars versus the time if it makes sense, when does it make sense? Does it make sense, later years down the line? Or does it make sense today, so trying to figure out and put all those puzzle pieces together is always a fun thing about being a CEO. So I love that definition, Michelle, and I appreciate you for taking some time out what I wanted to do was pass you the mic so to speak, just to see if there was anything additional, you want to let our readers and our listeners know and how best people can get a hold of you.
Michelle Eichner 13:03
Sure. So things that I think everyone should be aware of is finding mentors, right? I think I've personally been able to reach out to people, when I've had questions and not appreciated, perhaps having been through something before either anticipate what something might look like or be like when you get there. There are times when you're in the thick of stuff, and you need someone that you can contact. And, don't be afraid to take on some assistance, free or otherwise, as it can help clarify, I think sometimes we tend to eat our own dog food so much that we forget to look beyond our four walls. And having an outside perspective, in my opinion, has been very helpful.
I do have a really good plug for, CEOs out there, depending on where they are in their business, which is early on, I discovered the Small Business Development Center, which is an arm of the SBA, and there's no cost to businesses, and they are consultants and you get an advisor who essentially can go in and talk to from there. If you have questions about the legal, if you have questions about accounting, if you have questions about marketing, they bring experts in to speak with you. It has been a great resource, I meet with them at least probably quarterly, sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on what our needs are.
So I want to share that because I think it's a service that a lot of entrepreneurs aren't familiar with the Small Business Development Center on the arm of the SBA, that have a team of experts and advisors that they can access at no cost. You just have to sign up and get going. So that's probably my biggest leave behind as far as those entrepreneurs out there who are either early on or just getting going and want to find some mentors, but I think getting mentors is very important. Recognize that I think it's an important component of helping you grow and seeing past your four walls.
Gresham Harkless 14:58
Yeah, that's absolutely huge. And especially the SBDC as well, too. There are local SBDCs all across the United States. And now I wanted to see if somebody wants to reach out to you and they want to take advantage of that trial. What's the best way for them to do that as well?
Michelle Eichner 15:12
Sure. So our website is digitile.io. We have a free trial on that site. If anyone wants to contact me, they can either just do it right through the form online or can LinkedIn with me, I'm happy to chat with people who are interested in entrepreneurship or want to bounce ideas. We're in the SASS business. So if you have questions about starting a SASS business, by all means, feel free to reach out even through LinkedIn. And I'm happy to chat.
Gresham Harkless 15:41
Awesome, awesome, awesome. Well, I truly appreciate you, Michelle, for taking some time out and all the great advice and the great things that you're doing yourself and your team. So I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.
Michelle Eichner 15:50
Thank you, Gresham, thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Outro 15:52
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Intro 0:02
Do you want to learn effective ways to build relationships, generate sales and grow your business from successful entrepreneurs, startups, and CEOs without listening to a long, long, long interview? If so, you've come to the right place. Gresham Harkless values your time and is ready to share with you precisely the information you're in search of. This is the I AM CEO Podcast.
Gresham Harkless 0:27
Hello, Hello, Hello, this is Gresh from the I am CEO podcast and I have a very special guest on the show today, Liz Czepiel CEO of lizabethzepiel .com. Liz, it's awesome to have you on the show.
Liz Czepiel 0:37
Thank you so much for having me.
Gresham Harkless 0:39
No problem, no problem. What I wanted to do was just read a little bit more about Liz so you can hear about all the awesome things that she's doing. Liz Czepiel is an executive coach & learning and leadership consultant. Serving as a strategic business partner, she helps entrepreneurs bring their expertise to life through the creation of various learning initiatives including programs, workshops and masterminds and helps leaders turn exhaustion into efficiency and focus through leadership and agile coaching practices. Partners and clients include Girls With Impact, ExecOnline and MommyPoppins. In addition to her consulting practice, Liz serves on the faculty at Northeastern University and Columbia University. Liz, are you ready to speak to the I AM CEO community?
Liz Czepiel 1:23
I am so ready.
Gresham Harkless 1:25
All right, let's do it. So the first question I have is if you could just build a little bit more upon your background and tell us about your CEO story and what led you to start your business?
Liz Czepiel 1:33
Yeah, so way back when I actually started my career in finance had the dream, the dream was to work on Wall Street, and this was pre 2008. Found myself in a financial role for a nuclear energy company and two years into the role knew it wasn't the dream, right. Had the cube life, was falling asleep at my desk, I was crunching numbers, I could do the work, but it was not speaking to me. And that led me to go back to school, I knew I wanted to return to the classroom, I knew that my current line of work wasn't working and found this amazing master's program, looking at people in organizations, and everything that included from group dynamics to leadership to emotional intelligence, and how one person acts within the systems of an organization and I fell in love with the work and that was really the catalyst for my movement into the people side of business. So for the past 10 years or so I've been in a variety of different roles for some very large and some very small organizations doing everything from leadership coaching to driving different learning programs also headed up a diversity and inclusion organization at one of my companies, and really loved the work andI realized that I wanted more freedom in the work that I was doing. So I was gaining really solid experience coaching internally and building out these kinds of programs and I realized that, at times, I felt creatively stifled, if that makes sense. I have always been an overachiever, sometimes to a fault and I found myself in some of these roles, getting bored and I was always looking for the next thing. I always wanted the next challenge and I realized that in order to find that I needed to start grafting things myself and working with my own clients. and that's what I did. So about five years ago, I started my practice, and I know you've been asked specifically about this, but it filled such a need for me to control my time. Okay, so we all different reasons why we go into business for ourselves. One of mine was to make sure that I was constantly expanding my skill set and working creatively. I can't even say that word today.
Gresham Harkless 4:04
No worries, I can't say it either. I was going to help you.
Liz Czepiel 4:06
Not creativity in my work nd another reason for me another big why was ownership of my time to be able to work on the things that I wanted to work on with the people that really spark that energy in me and have that ownership of how I'm spending my days, right? we spend so much time at work, I needed to own that for myself, so that was the spark to go out on my own. I started my practice about five years ago, and it's evolved from primarily leadership coaching into, full blown project management or different learning programs for clients, and also partnering with CEOs to help them scale their business and I love this statement by one of my clients, He said, I'm here I am 10 years into my business highly successful in the SEO space and I'm at the point where I'm ready to become a CEO, not just a guy running a company. So I partner with a lot of people in that same position, okay? You have a really solid skill set and what you're doing, how do we get you to the next level, actually operating like a CEO and building strategy and being okay, bringing a team along the journey with you, because that can be really challenging, starting to delegate and trust people with this creation that you've developed yourself. So that's a little bit about how I got into this work.
Gresham Harkless 5:33
Nice, nice, nice. And it's always interesting how the universe pushes you where you don't necessarily want to be and it leads you to where you want to be, and how those opposites attract. So you experienced that or the binaries, you experienced one side, and then you want to definitely position yourself into doing that. So I know you touched a little bit on it, but I want to hear a little bit more about, how you help the clients that you work with? And, can you take us through like exactly what you do from that standpoint?
Liz Czepiel 5:57
Yeah, so I do a variety of different things and I love that because I've realized over the years that I am multi passionate, and that's one of the things that my work allows me to do. So in many circumstances, I'm working with startups, organizations in the tech space, maybe solopreneurs. And they're looking to reach a broader audience, they have this level of expertise, they're not sure how to translate that into something that's actually digestible to their clients. So in those cases, I partner with them and we have a huge brainstorming session on what they know what they think the most valuable nuggets are, for their clients and we turn that into a learning program. Sometimes it's online, sometimes it's a life workshop, sometimes they're bringing people together in person for a retreat experience and I partner alongside them to project manage the whole experience, build out the curriculum and the content, and really help them figure out how to leverage what they know, in a way that will help them serve more individuals. I also work with clients and help them operationalize everything they need on the HR side of business, to continue growing and engaging their team. So I embed myself in organizations and help them figure out everything from their talent acquisition and onboarding processes to driving employee engagement through having performance review processes in place. So all kinds of the functional foundational HR things and then for other organizations or their clients, I'm working one on one with a CEO and more of a an executive coaching aspect, and having those important conversations and helping them overcome roadblocks and being that thought partner to them to continue to build their strategy.
Gresham Harkless 7:54
Awesome. As long as it sounds like you're a Swiss army knife, so to speak, where you have these different roles, but you're trying to figure out exactly like what that client that you're working with might actually need and then you're able to provide whatever services they they're actually looking for.
Liz Czepiel 8:08
Yeah, it's all about curiosity. I come in, and I have a game plan and a set of templates that I like to use, and, all that good stuff, but it needs to be tailored to what the client needs and a lot of times I start working with someone in one capacity and that evolves because they realize they want to go in a new direction. And okay, I'm here, what are we going to do? How are we going to get this done? So it's all about being really curious and serving the client and where they are and where they want to be.
Gresham Harkless 8:36
Makes perfect sense. And now I wanted to ask you for what I call your secret sauce and this might be something that you feel distinguishes you or sets you apart. So what do you think your secret sauce is?
Liz Czepiel 8:45
I love that question. I would say something that has served me tremendously and I didn't anticipate this at all, is having the diverse background that I have and being able to engage in organizations from multiple revenue ranges, size ranges, and being able to come to the table and understand the system side of things, understand the numbers and the finance. Before I started, my own practice, I worked for a large consulting firm, so I get that client consultant relationship. And being able to bring that all to the table in the work that I do now is extremely helpful, not only to me to understand, the stage of the organization, where they're looking to grow, but also to the client, because a lot of times I'm not partnering with other leadership or HR type organizations, the industries I work in are across the board. So to have that even language that we can use when it comes to business is an automatic relationship builder.
Gresham Harkless 9:50
Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, like you say, could you have a diverse background, you can automatically come to a common place and probably understand exactly like what that potential client or that client exactly is going through and things you can do to help them, to reach those goals. So I think that's pretty awesome that you're able to do that. So I'm now wanted to switch gears a little bit and ask you for what I call a CEO hack. And this might be an app or book or habit that you have. But it's something that makes you more effective and efficient as a CEO.
Liz Czepiel 10:15
Yes, time management is critical, especially with so many different clients, projects, initiatives, timelines for all the different pieces that I'm working with. And for me, I keep it really simple. I have enough apps and tools and systems that I use for project management and building courses and all of that. I use Outlook, I went through this week, I probably have nine different email accounts that I'm managing right now. So for me to mentally prepare myself and know what I'm doing for the week, I need to have it all in one place. So I've all my accounts in Outlook and I actually start each morning, by time blocking that day or that week, I use the task function to make sure I know what's coming up, a few weeks out, I use some recurring meetings in there. So I know every Friday this is due and then on my calendar, it is just filled with different colors for different projects and priorities and that's the only way I can mentally make sure that I'm on task, I feel organized, it helps get all that mental conversation out of my head around what's due and have it in one place where I can actually see it and I know how allotting every hour to the day, that saves me.
Gresham Harkless 11:34
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. And I can't say how powerful it is just to be able to take something that's in your head and be able to place it someplace else and gives you space to not worry about it. Even though we think we're not holding on to it, even if it's a little small thing or to do this, If we don't put it someplace a lot of times it can block us from doing other things are worried about.
Liz Czepiel 11:52
Yeah, forget the headspace.
Gresham Harkless 11:54
Exactly, exactly. So now I wanted to ask you for what I call a CEO nugget. And this is basically a word of wisdom or piece of advice you might have for entrepreneurs and business owners or something you might tell your younger business self.
Liz Czepiel 12:05
I got to a point in my business where I was doing a lot of comparison, I was looking at a lot of competitors and I dove into their offerings and their background and I found myself saying, they're just really lucky, they're doing a lot of this work with clients I would love to work with, and I'm not sure how they got there. I feel like I have, pretty credible experience and a pretty solid background. But for some reason these other people have made their businesses work and I found myself going through this comparison and internal dialogue one day, and I switched the perspective. I said, Well, why not me? If they're doing it with their background? Why not me, and that's become a monster for myself. It's because it's so easy, especially starting out, you have the shiny object syndrome, you're constantly looking at how you can improve yourself by, maybe following in the footsteps of someone you admire and seeing how you stack up against them. But why not me? Why not me with what I have to bring to the table?
Gresham Harkless 12:06
Exactly, exactly. I love that. Why not me, it's a very powerful question to ask. And in a lot of the times, we underestimate what we're able to accomplish and able to do. But that's just a constant reminder that not only can that person do it, but I can do it too. So I love that CEO nugget that you provided. And now I want to ask you my absolute favorite question, which is a definition for what it means to be a CEO. And we're hoping to have different CEOs on the podcast, but want to ask you specifically what does being a CEO mean to?
Liz Czepiel 13:44
You know, I answered this question not too long ago, and I'm gonna stick with that answer. It means having a vision, and continuing to evolve that vision by thinking strategically, I think there's a difference between, someone who is running a business and actually being a CEO and I think you step into that role as you are able to step out of the day to day, that's not a component of your role. But when you're at the point where, you're not responsible for filing the papers or managing the calendar, though, those are really super important when you're at the point where you can actually elevate yourself to that strategic level and have a plan for your business for the next three, five years. I think that's when you're at that level of CEO, you are overseeing and really bringing your vision to life through that way.
Gresham Harkless 14:49
I love that and it's dea of leveling up like you're going through a building or something when you're on a higher level, you're able to see more out, it would have made more strategic decisions like you mentioned that three or five years in advance I think that's a phenomenal definition. And I'm glad you shared that with us. And Liz, I truly appreciate you for taking some time out. What I wanted to do was kind of pass you the mic, so to speak, just to see if there's anything additional. You want to let our readers and our listeners know and how best people can get a hold of you.
Liz Czepiel 15:14
Yeah, definitely find me on my website. Hopefully we'll post that with the the link to this recording and is there anything I want to leave the listeners with, I'm always looking to connect with new people. So if you're curious about anything we talked about today, find my website happy to hop on a call and get to know.
Gresham Harkless 15:37
Absolutely. I appreciate that. And what we'll do, we'll definitely have that link in the show notes, so just anybody can follow up with you list. But again, I truly appreciate you and taking time out and all the awesome things that you're doing. I hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day.
Liz Czepiel 15:48
Thank you too.
Outro 15:50
Thank you for listening to the I AM CEO Podcast powered by Blue 16 Media. Tune in next time and visit us at iamceo.co I AM CEO is not just a phrase, it's a community. Be sure to follow us on social media and subscribe to our podcast on iTunes Google Play and everywhere you listen to podcasts, SUBSCRIBE, and leave us a five-star rating grab CEO gear at www.ceogear.co. This has been the I AM CEO Podcast with Gresham Harkless. Thank you for listening
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